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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Salty, Aug 23, 2021.

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  1. Yes, I do

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  2. NO, I do not

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  3. Somewhat

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  4. I do not understand this doctrine at all.

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  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    People who were saved in the OT were under the NC of Grace even there, as God saves all lost sinners by same Cross of Christ!
     
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    Wow, check the poll out. When I joined the BB waaaay back in '09' I'm pretty sure Dispys were the majority here.
     
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    I was surprised too.
     
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    Where specifically in Ephesians does it say what you are writing about. You say this is truth it yet you do not show the passages.
    MB
     
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    I believe Dispensationalism places the Papal Antichrist, as identified by the Reformers, into Protestant Churches of our day. His control remains, only now through false doctrines originally created by the Jesuits to deceive Protestants into thinking the Antichrist is yet future. I think Dispensationalism and Pentecostalism are both parts of the great apostasy that precede the Lord's return. Salvation is of Grace so some of the most deceived could still wake up in Heaven.
     
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    I started off really appreciating this article, but as I read further, I started getting uneasy, and then at the end came to this conclusion that I think is oversimplified.

    Either all the Christian scholars prior to 1830 have been wrong about the central teachings of the New Testament or else the dispensationalists are wrong.

    It is not this black and white.
     
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    Majority doesn't make them right.
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    God never breaks a promise.Remember God never changes His mind..
     
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    Ephesians 2:1-10
     
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    ...I guess he wrongly assumed that MB was skilled enough with the scriptures to find it on his own. Maybe it's not about 'skilled', but being 'lazy' on your part.
     
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    Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, Matthew 5:17. All the promises of God are fulfilled in the coming of Jesus Christ.

    Did Jesus fail in His specific mission to fulfill the Law and the Prophets?

    peace to you
     
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    Amen!

    19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timothy, was not yea and nay, but in him is yea.
    20 For how many soever be the promises of God, in him is the yea: wherefore also through him is the Amen, unto the glory of God through us. 2 Cor 1
     
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    I had not remembered that particular passage. That is the exclamation point! The Amen!

    Thanks

    peace to you
     
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    Looks like sound biblical teaching pays off.

    peace to you
     
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    I read @:1-10 but I didn't get the same message as you did. There is nothing about becoming one people there. Maybe this is what you meant by saying

    Maybe you meant Eph 2 15

    Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;-KJV This is the only verse I know of that states the term "One new man"
    Even this doesn't say what you said. Maybe you forgot what you said. At any rate I could not find such a verse that would back up your statement.
    MB
     
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    I stand corrected. Ephesians 2: the whole chapter. Paul is very clear in Ephesians 2 that the two groups (Jew and Gentile) have been made into “one new man” by the work of Jesus on the cross. Both groups (as the one new man) have access to the Father, through the Spirit.

    Further more, this truth will demonstrate the grace if Jesus Christ “in the ages to come”.

    Did you see the phrase “in the ages to come”? Perhaps that means something to you.

    peace to you
     
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    Christ was very clear about it also:

    16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10
     
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    I am a dispensationalist and believe you can be saved whether you are one or not.
    Salvation, in the church age, depends exclusively on if a person at one point in their life trusted nothing but the righteousness of Christ to save them from judgment.
    The only time ignoring the doctrine can lead to hell is as in the case of, sadly, many (though not all), Catholics and Orthodox, who imagine themselves under the teachings of Christ in the gospels, or of James, and thus, consistently with their understanding, work to earn their salvation at least in part, believing in faith+works, and therefore never come to trust only the righteousness of Christ.
    But as for the people on this board who declare they trust nothing but the righteousness of Christ, then they are saved, whether they are dispensationalists or not.
     
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    I wouldn't go so far as to say groups because in my Bible Paul is speaking about the singular "One New Man" It says to me we now all have access to the Father. It does not say Gentiles are now Jews but that we are on the same level. Where before we were separate.because Gentiles were lost with out hope. Now the lost do have the possibility of Salvation.
    MB
     
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    Welcome to Federalism 1689!
     
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