A Mississippi news anchor is off the air after refusing a coronavirus vaccine
A Mississippi news anchor is off the air after refusing a coronavirus vaccine
"..because of those who did not take responsibility for their health.."
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A Mississippi news anchor is off the air after refusing a coronavirus vaccine
A Mississippi news anchor is off the air after refusing a coronavirus vaccine
"..because of those who did not take responsibility for their health.."
Why do you believe the woman was not taking responsibility for her health?
People have the right to take a vaccine or not. Covid can be deadly, but people should weigh the benefits and risks of the vaccines against the risks of the virus. How do you know that she has not had anaphylaxis related to other vacvines? How do you know she did not consider her choices?
You don't. All you know is she was required to be vaccinated as a condition of employment and rather than be vaccinated or fired she quit.
You are making assumptions. Just because somebody chooses differently from you does not mean they are not responsible. Our choices belong to us.
I am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. But he has considered the risk of covid (which is low) and his health (which I suspect is much better than mine). From what I gather he does not see the vaccines as beneficial and I think even dangerous.
Both of us are responsible for our health even though we have chosen differently.
Don't decide for other people what they should or should not do in regards to their health.
People have the right to take a vaccine or not. Covid can be deadly, but people should weigh the benefits and risks of the vaccines against the risks of the virus. How do you know that she has not had anaphylaxis related to other vacvines? How do you know she did not consider her choices?
You don't. All you know is she was required to be vaccinated as a condition of employment and rather than be vaccinated or fired she quit.
You are making assumptions. Just because somebody chooses differently from you does not mean they are not responsible. Our choices belong to us.
I am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. But he has considered the risk of covid (which is low) and his health (which I suspect is much better than mine). From what I gather he does not see the vaccines as beneficial and I think even dangerous.
Both of us are responsible for our health even though we have chosen differently.
Don't decide for other people what they should or should not do in regards to their health.
Hey Buddy, the quote is from you.
Why not pick on me instead of someone not yet (if at all) on this thread?
" am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. "
You get to divulge someone's medical info in public?
Now you are calling your brother irresponsible?
I hope you personally invited him to participate in this discussion before you cut him.
Your fine words in the other thread just went down the drain.
Why not pick on me instead of someone not yet (if at all) on this thread?
" am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. "
You get to divulge someone's medical info in public?
Now you are calling your brother irresponsible?
I hope you personally invited him to participate in this discussion before you cut him.
Your fine words in the other thread just went down the drain.
The only time I recall even mentioning people not bring responsible for their health was in the context of health insurance and risk categories. The vaccinated should not have to pay for those not being responsible for their health in terms of risk (like nonsmokers should not have to pay more to cover smokers). Refusing a vaccine is putting oneself at an increased risk statistically. As a group this is not being responsible, particularly when you want others to absorb the risk financially.
This is an entirely different contest. Here we are talking about individuals and their personal health choices.
You have a very bad habit of lifting words, crossing topics, and taking quotes out of context.
Uh.....no. now you are being childish.
I divulged what he posted.
I was referencing his words do I used the "@" and his username so that he would know he had been mentioned.
It was not an invitation to participate. He does not need an invitation to participate. He is an active member.
I did not mean "I'm going to pick on" to be insulting but as most people use the term.
You are kinda oversensitive and emotional. This is just am online forum where Christians discuss things (even if they disagree).
It is not any of your business who I invite or who I do not invite.
What you should be concerned about is integrity when lifting other people's words. When you quote people use the quote feature. And at least try not to take other people's words out of contest (i.e., don't take a quote taking about groups and insurance risk categories and apply it to a situation about individual health choices as that is not an honest presentation of the others words).
I do not think you understand this because this seems to be a habit.
For an illustration. We know where you stand regarding Trump and Biden. You said "against former president Trump".
You really did post that, but thatcwas not what you were saying.
Just using people's words is not quoting them.
Does that help you understand?
Good. I thought the example may help.
When we bounce back and forward between threads it is very easy to misrepresent people.
I did this a couple of weeks ago by addressing one member when I meant another.
But I am glad it helped. I'm not tge best at explaining things so it must have been God's hand in the mix
Dave G
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Excerpt from the article:
A Mississippi news anchor is off the air after refusing a coronavirus vaccine
" Such moves have occurred in recent months as more companies make the vaccines a condition of employment. Major employers such as Disney, Facebook, Google, United Airlines and Walmart announced coronavirus immunization requirements over the summer, when the highly contagious delta variant sent infections soaring."
I'd like to add, that the highly contagious delta variant has sent infections ( even in those that were and are vaccinated against the original SARS-COV2 virus ) soaring.
One can mention this and even cite "live examples" of it, yet the mandates for vaccines that are failing to keep people from getting sick, continue... in the face of something that has, so far, refused to to be controlled.
My opinion is that, as long as those that are making the decisions for other people keep thinking that there's a chance that they can stop all of this, then they will keep recommending ( and even forcing people to, by threatening their livelihoods ) that the current vaccines be administered to others...
It's all that they have hope in, it seems.
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Dave G
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Another excerpt:
" Officials have repeatedly stressed that the vaccines are safe and effective, and CDC studies have found that the unvaccinated are more than 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus."
Safe for some 90-95% of the public, I would agree.
According to recent reports ( and some reports during the clinical trials of several of the new vaccines ), there is some small risk of heart inflammation, blood clots and other adverse reactions, but they are only being reported in the thousands...versus the millions that have now received the new vaccines and have had little to no problems.
But where these new statistics regarding the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated are really coming from, I do not know...as these vaccines have not been in existence long enough to gather any real and meaningful data other than effectiveness against the original version of the virus, in my opinion.
Effectiveness against recent exposures to "delta", which emerged in India last December, migrated to places like Brazil after that, and began appearing in the United States ( despite the lock downs and restrictions on foreign travel over the past year ), has had little time to be observed... as the first widespread cases did not appear until this past late spring and early summer here in the U.S.
From my observations, these vaccines are not as effective as they had hoped that they would be, especially in the face of emerging variants.
Similar to influenza, the probability exists that new vaccines will need to be developed and implemented in order to counter them...and the cycle will continue.
In addition,
Officials are only now beginning to see the short-term effects of the use of mRNA biotechnology in humans, and in my overall opinion, will not see the long-term effects for many years to come.
From my own perspective,
This "mad dash" to implement medicines that are very nearly being marketed to the general public as the next best thing to ( fill in the blank ) does not take into account how the use of this biotechnology impacts the human genome, especially over years and years.
Will cancers and other adverse conditions be the result of using this technology over the long-term?
From what I've seen, that has yet to be determined.
" Officials have repeatedly stressed that the vaccines are safe and effective, and CDC studies have found that the unvaccinated are more than 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus."
Safe for some 90-95% of the public, I would agree.
According to recent reports ( and some reports during the clinical trials of several of the new vaccines ), there is some small risk of heart inflammation, blood clots and other adverse reactions, but they are only being reported in the thousands...versus the millions that have now received the new vaccines and have had little to no problems.
But where these new statistics regarding the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated are really coming from, I do not know...as these vaccines have not been in existence long enough to gather any real and meaningful data other than effectiveness against the original version of the virus, in my opinion.
Effectiveness against recent exposures to "delta", which emerged in India last December, migrated to places like Brazil after that, and began appearing in the United States ( despite the lock downs and restrictions on foreign travel over the past year ), has had little time to be observed... as the first widespread cases did not appear until this past late spring and early summer here in the U.S.
From my observations, these vaccines are not as effective as they had hoped that they would be, especially in the face of emerging variants.
Similar to influenza, the probability exists that new vaccines will need to be developed and implemented in order to counter them...and the cycle will continue.
In addition,
Officials are only now beginning to see the short-term effects of the use of mRNA biotechnology in humans, and in my overall opinion, will not see the long-term effects for many years to come.
From my own perspective,
This "mad dash" to implement medicines that are very nearly being marketed to the general public as the next best thing to ( fill in the blank ) does not take into account how the use of this biotechnology impacts the human genome, especially over years and years.
Will cancers and other adverse conditions be the result of using this technology over the long-term?
From what I've seen, that has yet to be determined.
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Dave G
Well-Known Member
Pointing out what should be obvious to the public with statistics learned over the past 18 months from both sides of the discussion, and the fact that people who thought that taking the new vaccines meant that they would not get sick even now, is irrelevant, it seems.
Again, it appears to me that desperate people make for desperate measures, and we're seeing just how desperate it's getting, my friends.
Public officials are back-tracking on their intentions and statements from less than a year ago, and people who refuse to go along with the new mandates are being forced to choose between their consciences and their livelihoods.
I, for one, am glad that the Lord has graciously extended His gifts to me and that I am going to be with Him after this life;
and I know that should I refuse the vaccines ( as is my right to do under the United States Constitution and its existence that limits the power of the federal government ), the Lord will provide for me ( Matthew 6:24-34 ), and if I ask for the things needed in this life, I shall receive them ( Matthew 7:7-12 ).
Also, should I opt to receive one of these new vaccines in order to appease and follow the ordinances of men ( even if they go contrary to prior ordinances, publicly-made statements by elected officials, and the afore-mentioned Constitutional liberties contained in that document, especially the 14th Amendment ), He will protect me from harmful side-effects.
May the Lord bless each and every one of you with the wisdom to make the right decision when the time comes,
and may He remind you of His sure deliverance from that which would trouble us... especially in times when it seems that there is nothing but confusion and trials in this life.
One thing that we as believers in Jesus Christ can count on, is this:
He always keeps His promises, and He always will.
Again, it appears to me that desperate people make for desperate measures, and we're seeing just how desperate it's getting, my friends.
Public officials are back-tracking on their intentions and statements from less than a year ago, and people who refuse to go along with the new mandates are being forced to choose between their consciences and their livelihoods.
I, for one, am glad that the Lord has graciously extended His gifts to me and that I am going to be with Him after this life;
and I know that should I refuse the vaccines ( as is my right to do under the United States Constitution and its existence that limits the power of the federal government ), the Lord will provide for me ( Matthew 6:24-34 ), and if I ask for the things needed in this life, I shall receive them ( Matthew 7:7-12 ).
Also, should I opt to receive one of these new vaccines in order to appease and follow the ordinances of men ( even if they go contrary to prior ordinances, publicly-made statements by elected officials, and the afore-mentioned Constitutional liberties contained in that document, especially the 14th Amendment ), He will protect me from harmful side-effects.
May the Lord bless each and every one of you with the wisdom to make the right decision when the time comes,
and may He remind you of His sure deliverance from that which would trouble us... especially in times when it seems that there is nothing but confusion and trials in this life.
One thing that we as believers in Jesus Christ can count on, is this:
He always keeps His promises, and He always will.
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Really? Please provide a quote of a member on this board stating that people who reject the vaccine do so because they do not care about their health.
I have not read every post, but it seems from what I have read the opposite is true. People are vaccinated and reject the vaccine, it seems, because they do care about their health.
Can't you remember?
@Post 2
"I am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. (emphasis mine) But he has considered the risk of covid (which is low) and his health (which I suspect is much better than mine). From what I gather he does not see the vaccines as beneficial and I think even dangerous.
@Post 2
"I am going to pick on @asterisktom (sorry brother). I am vaccinated. That is me taking responsibility for my health. @asterisktom is not. (emphasis mine) But he has considered the risk of covid (which is low) and his health (which I suspect is much better than mine). From what I gather he does not see the vaccines as beneficial and I think even dangerous.