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The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Vaccines 2021, 9(7), 693; The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy
    Received: 2 June 2021 / Revised: 19 June 2021 / Accepted: 21 June 2021 / Published: 24 June 2021
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    The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy
     
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    A retracted journal article?
     
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    #4 Revmitchell, Oct 27, 2021
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    But it is the same science that saved millions of lives.

    Why do you trust the experts you cite?

    Did you trust them before they said what you wanted to hear?

    Or do you trust them because they say what you want to hear?
     
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    you are projecting as usual
     
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    So they say. You don't know what the effects would have been on those millions without the vaccine since the virus has a high survivability rate.
     
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    No, I am not projecting.

    The reason I believe the scientists associated with the CDC, FDA, and AMA is these are the organizations that have provided vaccines that has saved millions of lives. Their work and recommendations have saved the lives of cancer patients and their preventative measures have caught cancer early enough in people that many cancers that would previously be a death sentence are no longer.

    Why do you trust the experts you reference?
     
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    Winner by knockout!

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    See this is what you don’t get do to your assumptions. I don’t know who to trust. Not sure what to believe. I do know what I don’t trust. People with nasty attitudes like yours. For instance calling me evil because I had a different view than you. Reported it multiple times. You have no interest considering opposition to the current narrative from the far left about covid or the jab. Your intention is to always bat it down. Not credible. Those are things I don’t trust.
     
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    I don't trust people with nasty attitudes like you. But guess what? I'm not asking you to trust me. So we're good, brother.

    And I have not called you evil. That is you deflecting from the question.

    I told you what sources I trust and the reasons I trust those sources.

    I am asking YOU how YOU determine a source is trustworthy. Of all the people and organizations you have used as sources about the virus and vacvines, how many did you trust 4 years ago and how many did you just find while hunting g people who agreed with what you had already decided?
     
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    Do you agree that selective retraction has taken place relative to the political environment rather than because of the data as the lady states in the vid?
     
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    It depends on who or what one relies upon.

    When we examine the info on the CDC site they provide the evidence and justifications for conclusions but also the ammo anti-covid-vaxers use against them.

    This is one reason I trust them as a source. Where they list negative potential effects of vaccines, acknowledge challenges, recognize weaknesses, etc. the anti-covid-vax sources deny any of the potential for vaccines.

    But if you mean relying on politics and political organizations then I would agree.
     
    #13 JonC, Oct 27, 2021
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