Climate Change

Think God built into the ecosystem natural checks and balances, as we go into cycles of being colder to warmer , regardless of humanity!

 

Atheists invent crisis to exploit others. We are to be good stewards of our environment. In Boy Scouts, they taught us to leave our camp in better shape than when we found it. Thus we would remove our litter, and restore the natural condition. If we set aside the claim that our energy consumption will harm the future, we should be able to agree our water and air pollution should be curtailed.

Where we run into discord is when we say do without rather than do with better...

 

I totally agree that changes in climate, in either direction, are part of God's plan. If He chooses to use human-caused greenhouse gas emissions to arm the climate, it's no less a part of that plan. Likewise if it turns out that CO2 has no significant part in a warming climate - if God's will is for warmer climate, that's what will occur. As Van noted, we are to be good and careful stewards of God's creation.
IMO, changing climate via greenhouse gases is like stopping a supertanker; lots of "effort" is exerted before much change is noted. Thus the early decades of the Industrial Revolution only started the process. Today's far more mobile and greater population is emitting a lot more of those gases than even WW2, though there may have been short periods during that conflict that exceeded average daily emissions today.

 

The climate goes through natural, minor fluctuations due to sunspot activity which ebbs and flows by the decade or century.

No man made problem. No man made solution.

God is not punishing or rewarding with the weather.

peace to you

 

We have no idea how long the cycles last. Same with “climate” data. We have only been keeping records for 100 years, give or take. For all we know, there is a natural “cycle” that occurs every 500 years, or every 1000 years.

I doubt the earth ever changed its “tilt”. I’ve heard the theories, but they seem unscientific to me. Lots of speculation. No real evidence.

peace to you

 

That sounds a lot like Missouri. We occasionally have severe winter weather, but it rarely last more than a couple of weeks.

You guys with the lake effect snow have real winter.

peace to you

 

Climate change will happen according to the Scriptures.

However, such change is not the result of human contributions, but of God’s judgement.

imo, the enemies of Christ are preemptively using the message of climate change now, so, when Gos does bring judgement to the earth, the people will turn away from God and blame the industry of nations removing God from their thinking.

 

"...An intense warming phase occurred 52 million years ago, leading tropical vegetation, including palms and relatives of today's tropical Baobab trees, to grow on the continent’s now frozen coasts.

The surprising discovery came from a study of drill cores obtained from the seafloor near Antarctica. The results, published in the journal Nature, show that warm ocean currents and high carbon dioxide (CO2) levels in the air boosted temperatures, allowing tropical vegetation to grow where visitors today meet only icebergs and freezing cold.'''"
Antarctica once covered in palm trees, scientists discover

CO2 - plants love it, manmade or not:

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds | Baptist Christian Forums (baptistboard.com)

 

Where did you live as a kid? We lived ten years (1976-85) near the northern tip of Maine and never came close to having an October start to continuous snow cover, though in 1982 the cover lasted thru May 3.

And for canadyjd: I think Robycop3's 11-year "sun" cycles referred to the sunspot cycle, not some much longer changes.

 

Speculation isn’t science. I’ve heard the stories of plants in Antarctica , Mammoths frozen standing up and so on. I saw a video of man claiming he was with a group that found Noah’s arc after a glacier melted and an atheist attempted to chop it up with an axe because he knew it would prove the Bible true.

I haven’t seen scientific studies that confirmed the finds.

peace to you

 

I did understand that. My point is the 11 year cycle has only been recently observed and may not reflect longer cycles that haven’t been observed.

peace to you

 

Just think that the liberal private jets buzzing around emit FAR more floral carbons then all of the Suv on earth daily do!

 

the earth hath existed waste and void, YLT
And the earth was waste and empty, Darby

Climate change?

 

It is sad that so many Christians are disobedient to God’s first command to man to steward creation and sees destruction and making a place unliveable for future generations as what God intended by ruling or reigning.

Gen 1:28-29

Gen 2:15