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Ivermectin, a Godsend

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  1. JonC

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    I'm not interested in people who used Ivermectin and got better. Just like people who complained of vaccine side-effects only to have been given placebos the results are suspect.

    What I mean are studies like Duke is working on (a fixed number of candidates with a control group).
     
    #61 JonC, Jan 22, 2022
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    Except they could sell their product.
     
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    I am interested in the studies....but not enough to read a book (sorry).

    Publish on on your travels and I'm game.
     
    #63 JonC, Jan 22, 2022
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    They don't want to.
     
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  5. JonC

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    We also need to acknowledge the deaths linked to Ivermectin. I don't mean overdoses associated with the pandemic, but pre-2019 Ivermectin deaths.
     
    #65 JonC, Jan 22, 2022
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    With Omicron?
     
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    Of course....
     
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    How about we finally acknowledge Covid's microscopic death rate?
     
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    If we do that we need to first look at the much greater number of deaths from Remdesivir, respirators, and the murderous HCQ "trials" from the vaccine cartel.

    But please tell me first about these IVM deaths. Aside from one dubious story, It is news to me.
     
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    A good place to get a feel for the book The Real Anthony Fauci, I recommend at the very least checking out the Amazon page. A lot of good reviews on this wretched excuse for a human being. His evil machinations have been going on for decades. Reading the section on AIDS and his AZT is particularly damning.

    https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens/dp/1510766804
     
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    It has been an issue for some time (pre-pandemic).

    Current deaths (and serious medical issues) that I've read about with Ivermectin and the pandemic concern overdoses. I take it this is from people buying the drug from a farm supply and "prescribing" their own dose. So I'm not really concerned with this as it is related to stupidity rather than the medication itself.

    But deaths and serious effects from Ivermectin have been reported prior to 2019. There was, for example, a study from 2018 studying serious adverse neurological effects from Ivermectin in treating patients in Africa. There was a 2017 study of deaths resulting from Ivermectin used to treat scabies.

    The medication has been connected to neurotoxicity (seizures, disorientation, coma).

    All studies I have read conclude the risks are worth the benefit.

    I do hope the medication proves effective. My concern is with people just going to TSC and taking the drug believing it is safe.
     
    #71 JonC, Jan 23, 2022
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    Any sources on this? And I mean neutral sources, not NIH or the several others that have money ties to Fauci and or Gates.

    Here is a good site of thirty studies on the efficacy of IVM.
    COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 1,334 studies
     
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    I need to be clear - I am NOT saying Ivermectin does not (or does) work. I am saying that I hope the benefits outemweigh the risks but am concerned that some simply ignore a risk is present.

    Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis?

    Persistent Coma in Strongyloides Hyperinfection Syndrome Associated With Persistently Increased Ivermectin Levels

    Deaths after Ivermectin treatment (1997)

    Ivermectin Side Effects: Common, Severe, Long Term - Drugs.com

    Serious Ivermectin Toxicity and Human ABCB1 Nonsense Mutations | NEJM
     
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    Thank you for the links. Two of them are certainly not neutral sources so I would suspect slanting. The other two look interesting.
     
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    I think it depends on what you mean by "neutral".

    All of them come to the sane conclusions. There are risks (of course...there are ALWAYS risks) but the risks do not outweigh the benefit (for the paticular isdue.....however risks rise with various populations).
     
    #75 JonC, Jan 23, 2022
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    I thought Ivermectin won a noble prize of something. Did they take the prize back?
     
    #76 percho, Jan 23, 2022
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    I think Jon is trying to take it back:D
     
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    Neutral - as in not financially controlled by Fauci-Gates money. But to know about that you would need to research that as well. I dont think you have.
     
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    Yes, there are always risks. The risks from IVM are certainly miniscule compared to those vaccines or Remdesivir. I am glad that I took the risk.
     
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    I have read a lot of conspiracy theories (that scientists work out of greed and are controlled by funding). But if that were true then I suspect the results would have been much better for the vaccines.
     
    #80 JonC, Jan 23, 2022
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