Coming soon: Climate lockdowns?

[KenH]

"Significant measures are already being planned to combat climate change. California will ban the sale of gasoline cars in 13 years, as will Germany. Britain plans to do the same in just eight. Prohibiting internal combustion engines could save the planet, the argument goes. As each negative weather event is blamed on climate change, government will increasingly use its restrictive tools.

While deaths from natural disasters have fallen by two-thirds over the past five decades, mostly thanks to technological innovations, elites insist that climate change is the "biggest threat modern humans have ever faced.” Climate lockdowns and other restrictions will be framed as saving the people of the United States, and the world, from themselves. What goal could be more noble?

Anyone against such measures could be labeled a "climate denier” who stands against progress — or simply a “domestic terrorist.” Defectors likely won’t have much choice, anyhow. Facial recognition and plate-reading software, coupled with the impressive scope of drones, could lead to severe enforcement. Don’t like the restrictions on your gas guzzler? The government could easily track its location and send automatic tickets — or worse. The ability for officials to depend on a significant minority of zealous supporters to enforce measures is invaluable, as well."

- rest at Coming soon: Climate lockdowns? | The Hill

 

[Van]

People, many of them single women, elect those who believe in compulsion over persuasion, i.e. ban cars rather than produce a vehicle that makes fossil fueled vehicles obsolete.

Our lead/acid starter batteries only last about 3 years, why do vehicles not come with LFP batteries that last 10-15 years? Ask yourselves, how come the "free market" has not produced an alternative?

We need a party in power that will protect the market, not preclude it.

 

[37818]

. . . produce a vehicle that makes fossil fueled vehicles obsolete.

I do not agree with even that approch. Such a vehicle would have to be mind changing innovation.

 

[Van]

I do not agree with even that approach. Such a vehicle would have to be mind changing innovation.

People can change their minds, and stop using outdated technology and start using the superior technology.
I use electric lamps, not oil lamps.
I drive a car that gets 40 MPG, not one that gets less than 30 MPG.
My house has double pane windows, and my electric bill is down about 25% on average.

The market forces work, i.e build a better mouse trap and the public will beat a path to your door.

 

[37818]

- rest at Coming soon: Climate lockdowns? | The Hill

We as Christians need to have a better understanding of the actual science of the issue and to stand against the evil non-sense.

 

[37818]

. . . I use electric lamps, not oil lamps.. . . .

Incandescent, not fluorescent or better yet LED?

 

[Van]

Incandescent, not fluorescent or better yet LED?

Yes, nearly all my lights within my house are LED. They use less power and last a whole lot longer.

Ask yourselves, why do we not have electric vehicles with LFP batteries, using American mined, American refined, and American manufactured LFP batteries? Does Bribeonomics supply the answer?

 

[37818]

Ask yourselves, why do we not have electric vehicles with LFP batteries, using American mined, American refined, and American manufactured LFP batteries? Does Bribeonomics supply the answer?

Well, performance drawbacks of LFPs in cold weather is a currant issue.

 

[Van]

Well, performance drawbacks of LFPs in cold weather is a currant issue.

Please link to the source of this claim, as I am under the impression LFP does better in cold weather than other Lithium batteries?
Here is just one alternate view:
How cold affects lithium iron phosphate batteries

 

[37818]

Here is just one alternate view:
How cold affects lithium iron phosphate batteries

As replacements for Lead Acid Batteries.

Carmakers Are Switching to Cheaper EV Batteries, But There's a Big Trade-Off

 

[Van]

Tesla's New LFP Battery Truly Shines in Sub-Zero Temperatures, Looks Like a Winner

It appears the internet offers mixed messages.

 

[Van]

One other often overlooked point with LFP batteries, they can be recharged to nearly 100% capacity, whereas LCM batteries are recharged to only about 80% capacity. So the lower energy density of the LFP battery is partially offset by a greater recharge. Say we start with a 60 KWh capacity battery. If it gets 3.5 miles per KWh, then it has a recharge range of about 210 miles if LFP, but only about 168 miles if a LCM battery. This disparity partially off-sets the fact the LCM battery will probably be of similar size and weight but have perhaps 30% more capacity. So if we compare a LCM battery of 78 KWhs to a 60 KWh LFP, the LCM stills wins in recharge range but not by much.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

As replacements for Lead Acid Batteries.

Carmakers Are Switching to Cheaper EV Batteries, But There's a Big Trade-Off

Insanity reins supreme

 

[Van]

Insanity reins supreme

Yes it does, ever notice those cars with four exhaust pipes prominently displayed?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Incandescent, not fluorescent or better yet LED?

Incandescent is flexible for dimming, providing heat but has a shorter life… and was very cheap to make. Fluorescent is widely used for commercial applications… not designed for dimming but who does that in commercial applications… finally, LED… lowest energy consumption of all technologies and heaven forbid you don’t switch to and use the technology, the feds under Biden
can arrest you. I better shut up or the Feds will enter my house at 6 am and shoot me as I get outa my chair. Such is the plight of the USA citizens in the year of our Lord 2023.

 

[Van]

LED lights dim.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

People, many of them single women, elect those who believe in compulsion over persuasion, i.e. ban cars rather than produce a vehicle that makes fossil fueled vehicles obsolete.

Our lead/acid starter batteries only last about 3 years, why do vehicles not come with LFP batteries that last 10-15 years? Ask yourselves, how come the "free market" has not produced an alternative?

We need a party in power that will protect the market, not preclude it.

I agree with all of this except the about 3-year life of lead-acid batteries. My 2011 Ranger had 48k miles when I bought it late in 2014. It's now over 154k and has the same battery as when I got it. While the Maine foothills don't get the blazing heat that can harm L-A power, we do get cold - median in our frost-pocket location for winter's coldest morning is -25. My other vehicles' batteries have all gone well past the 3-year mark as well.

 

[Van]

I agree with all of this except the about 3-year life of lead-acid batteries. My 2011 Ranger had 48k miles when I bought it late in 2014. It's now over 154k and has the same battery as when I got it. While the Maine foothills don't get the blazing heat that can harm L-A power, we do get cold - median in our frost-pocket location for winter's coldest morning is -25. My other vehicles' batteries have all gone well past the 3-year mark as well.

Good point, the duration of any particular Lead/Acid battery varies. I had one die in less than 2 years, purchased and installed at the car dealer's shop. They replaced it free of charge, as they expected it should have lasted 3 or more years. I looked at some articles on battery life and they were fairly consistent with an average of 3 to 5 years.

 

[kyredneck]

Such a vehicle would have to be mind changing innovation.

,,,such as a superconductor at ambient temps...it would change everything.