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Baby it’s cold outside….

canadyjd

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What’s the weather been like where you are?

We got down to about 3 degrees real air temp. High today about 13 degrees.

Only got 1/4 inch of snow, no ice.

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kyredneck

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Lo 20s, 1 1/2" snow, supposed to get down to 4F tonight, chickens don't like it, dozens of birds coming to the feeders, very colorful activity against snowy backdrop.
 

canadyjd

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Lo 20s, 1 1/2" snow, supposed to get down to 4F tonight, chickens don't like it, dozens of birds coming to the feeders, very colorful activity against snowy backdrop.
Chickens inside? Can they survive 4 degrees?

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kyredneck

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Chickens inside? Can they survive 4 degrees?

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Oh yeah, their roost is in out of the wind and weather, and they're some tough free-range foraging birds.

I might turn the heat lamp on them but would rather not because it messes with their egg-laying 'bio-rhythm' and causes them to lay too much.
 
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canadyjd

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Oh yeah, their roost is in out of the wind and weather, and they're some tough free-range foraging birds.

I might turn the heat lamp on them but would rather not because it messes with their egg-laying 'bio-rhythm' and causes them to lay too much.
Let me see if I understand. They don’t have a coop. They just have an area where they roost. I guess they stay because you feed them well?

Very interesting.

My neighbor had chickens in a coop. The possums and a Fox ate most of them. He couldn’t keep them out. They dug under the walls.

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kyredneck

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Let me see if I understand. They don’t have a coop. They just have an area where they roost. I guess they stay because you feed them well?

Very interesting.

My neighbor had chickens in a coop. The possums and a Fox ate most of them. He couldn’t keep them out. They dug under the walls.

peace to you

Lol, they have 1/3 of a barn that has the roost and laying boxes but the 'coop' door is left open, they come & go as they please, and the two livestock guardian dogs (Anatolian Shepherds) have coyotes and possums and foxes and coons and groundhogs and feral cats and muskrats, etc., for breakfast...:)
 

canadyjd

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Lol, they have 1/3 of a barn that has the roost and laying boxes but the 'coop' door is left open, they come & go as they please, and the two livestock guardian dogs (Anatolian Shepherds) have coyotes and possums and foxes and coons and groundhogs and feral cats and muskrats, etc., for breakfast...:)
That must be the difference between a professional and amateur… you need guard dogs!!!!

Thanks for the info

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kyredneck

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...forgot to mention that the Black Star and ISA Brown chicken breeds we have are listed as cold-hardy breeds.
 

kyredneck

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That must be the difference between a professional and amateur… you need guard dogs!!!!

Thanks for the info

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We adopted a rescue Anatolian many years from Lexington Humane Society; had no idea about the peculiarities of the breed, we just wanted a large companion for our other outside dog. She panned out to be a loyal family member and an awesome watch dog that kept law and order on the homestead. After she passed wife wanted to get into chickens again, I said only if they can be free-ranged, and we get 2 Anatolian Shepherds to protect them., so we did, and they keep law and order on the homestead, and we have plenty of country eggs to eat and give away. :)
 

canadyjd

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We adopted a rescue Anatolian many years from Lexington Humane Society; had no idea about the peculiarities of the breed, we just wanted a large companion for our other outside dog. She panned out to be a loyal family member and an awesome watch dog that kept law and order on the homestead. After she passed wife wanted to get into chickens again, I said only if they can be free-ranged, and we get 2 Anatolian Shepherds to protect them., so we did, and they keep law and order on the homestead, and we have plenty of country eggs to eat and give away. :)
Years ago my mom picked up some puppies left in a box on the side of the road. My sister took one (name him Dumpy). Turned out to be a large shepherd mix (about 75lbs).

She had about 20 goats get out of the pen with a couple of Billys. She turned Dumpy loose and he herded them right back to the pen like he had been taught. I was amazed! Ever see the sheep herding competition? That’s exactly what he did. Must be in the DNA.

Dumpy lived to be 19 yrs. Not bad for a big dog

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kyredneck

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Years ago my mom picked up some puppies left in a box on the side of the road. My sister took one (name him Dumpy). Turned out to be a large shepherd mix (about 75lbs).

She had about 20 goats get out of the pen with a couple of Billys. She turned Dumpy loose and he herded them right back to the pen like he had been taught. I was amazed! Ever see the sheep herding competition? That’s exactly what he did. Must be in the DNA.

Dumpy lived to be 19 yrs. Not bad for a big dog

peace to you

19 yrs is extraordinary for that size, Dumpy must have been well taken care of as a dog. We presently have a 17 yr old Papillion (smallest Spaniel) which is not so extraordinary for a small dog like that.

Yes, the 'herding instinct' is definitely in the DNA of 'herding shepherds', as is the 'guarding instinct' with 'guardian shepherds'. These come naturally to them with little of no training. We bred Border Collies (herders) to sale many years ago and attempted to have free-range chickens at the same time, absolutely did not work. The dogs could not resist the urge to 'herd' the chickens, the chickens would panic and run, the dogs would attempt to contain the chickens any way possible, and chickens died from simply being 'wallowed' to death. The Border Collies were not 'bloodthirsty killers', but they were 'chicken-killers' none the less.
 

canadyjd

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19 yrs is extraordinary for that size, Dumpy must have been well taken care of as a dog. We presently have a 17 yr old Papillion (smallest Spaniel) which is not so extraordinary for a small dog like that.

Yes, the 'herding instinct' is definitely in the DNA of 'herding shepherds', as is the 'guarding instinct' with 'guardian shepherds'. These come naturally to them with little of no training. We bred Border Collies (herders) to sale many years ago and attempted to have free-range chickens at the same time, absolutely did not work. The dogs could not resist the urge to 'herd' the chickens, the chickens would panic and run, the dogs would attempt to contain the chickens any way possible, and chickens died from simply being 'wallowed' to death. The Border Collies were not 'bloodthirsty killers', but they were 'chicken-killers' none the less.
That is really fascinating. So, guardian shepherds for chickens. Herding shepherds for livestock. Got it!

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kyredneck

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My Romanian SIL grew up in communist Romania up in the mountains with flocks/herds of sheep and goats, where also there is a plethora of desirable varieties of wild mushrooms of which the hunting and selling of the shrooms is very popular. He told me that a common hazard for these 'shroomers' is to inadvertently wander between a 'sheep dog' and it's flock/herd. Very dangerous he said.
 
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