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I think you already know where I stand.
But he may not read this for a while, so I thought I'd flag it for him:

@Quantrill :
When are we SAVED?

 

16 Take heed to thyself, and to thy teaching. Continue in these things; for in doing this thou shalt save both thyself and them that hear thee. 1 Tim 4

When did Timothy, and his flock, finally get 'saved'?

 

Don't you think it odd that Timothy wasn't 'saved' yet?

 

No not "reconciled" but reconciling the world to Himself.

 

At the exact moment of regeneration we are quickened by the Spirit,saved from our sins and possess eternal life,which was promised before the world was.

 

A person “saved” when God Holy Spirit, permanently indwells that person.

peace to you

 

According to these, when was the believer actually saved?


" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." ( 1 Corinthians 1:18 ).

" but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God." ( 1 Corinthians 1:24 ).

" Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God." ( 1 Corinthians 2:12 ).

" But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." ( Romans 5:8-10 ).

Romans 8:28-30.
Romans 9:22-24.
John 8:43-47.
John 17:2.

Finally,

" The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." ( Revelation 17:8 ).

"Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world." ( Acts of the Apostles 15:18 ).

" For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." ( Ephesians 2:10 ).

 

Literally translated:

18 for the word of the cross to those indeed perishing is foolishness, and to us -- those being saved -- it is the power of God, 1 Cor 1 YLT

.Gospel Salvation is an ongoing, continuing process, not a one time event. What happens if one stops 'continuing' or is weak and fails to 'hold fast'?:

......to present you holy and without blemish and unreproveable before him: if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, Col 1:22,23


Behold then the goodness and severity of God: toward them that fell, severity; but toward thee, God`s goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Ro 11:22


Now I make known unto you brethren, the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye received, wherein also ye stand, by which also ye are saved, if ye hold fast the word which I preached unto you, except ye believed in vain. 1 Cor 15:1,2

but Christ as a son, over his house; whose house are we, if we hold fast our boldness and the glorying of our hope firm unto the end...... for we are become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence firm unto the end: Heb 3:6,14

Behold then the goodness and severity of God: toward them that fell, severity; but toward thee, God`s goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Ro 11:22

Take heed to thyself, and to thy teaching. Continue in these things; for in doing this thou shalt save both thyself and them that hear thee. 1 Tim 4:18

 

When we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, at very moment born again by act and will of God!

 

Well he was saved before he heard this... This is not talking about the Salvation we need to have it is talking about Salvation we already have... Paul is telling Timothy watch out for unsound doctrine take heed to what you have already heard or you will slip into error and the ones that hear you will compound the error... Error breeds error, truth breeds truth.

Oh and BTW... I'm not addressing Kentucky, I know how he thinks but run this thru your brain housing group, if this is your interpretation you have an unregenerate preacher, preaching to unregenerate sinners to get saved... That will NEVER work!... Brother Glen

 

Zactly.

 

13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Its really simple. We are saved in the order above .

 

19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
This seems to point back to what Jesus did on the cross .But to BE reconciled in the sense of ' saved' to future glorification.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." ( Romans 5:8-10 ).

 

I would imagine that every Christian would say the source of faith is God.
However, the running argument here is:

When did God give humans faith?

A handful of people argue that God created humans with faith and humans are responsible for either leaving faith dormant or activating faith.

Others state that faith does not exist in a human until God chooses to gift them faith when God makes them alive with Christ.

I hold the latter view. I believe @MB holds the first view.

 

you said "
responsible for either leaving faith dormant or activating faith" huh ? that makes no sense ? ' Activating faith ? . No we broke frame from the current set of propositions we were holding and we believed the Gospel ( Gods revelation) when we heard . Faith comes by hearing .

 

Can a dead man hear?

 

Then they are tares, are they not?