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How will your church help Afghan refugees settle in the United States?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Baptist Believer, Aug 27, 2021.

  1. Baptist Believer

    Baptist Believer Well-Known Member
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    Explainer: Who are the Afghan refugees coming to the U.S. and what happens when they arrive?

    Media reports indicate that a significant number of Afghan refugees are expected to settle in Texas, with at least 48 coming to my city, Fort Worth, in the first wave.

    In response, our church is partnering with World Relief to help with airport pick-ups, donations, ESL tutoring, Good Neighbor teams, and Walmart gift cards to help with providing critical items for setting up a household. We are plan to continue our work ministering to the existing refugee community here in Fort Worth -- many of them Muslim -- and building relationships with families to take the love and message of Jesus.

    Does your church have a plan?
     
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  2. Marooncat79

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    My son attends an acts 29 church in FTW

    they are planning a lot I think
     
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  3. Baptist Believer

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    I’m glad to hear it.

    I am praying that our churches in Fort Worth can help make a difference in the lives of these refugees and see much of the refugee community come to Christ.

    I know a number of churches around here who stepped up during the earliest days of the pandemic to deliver food and household goods to refugee families. I pray it will continue, as needed.
     
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    How can you tell the "refugees" from the radical islamists who wish only to destroy America?

    Almost none of them were vetted.
     
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  5. Baptist Believer

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    How do I know YOU are not trying to destroy America?

    You have claimed Ashli Babbitt was murdered, and you have portrayed the officer who had to use lethal force as "panic striken"

    You have also described Capitol Police officers who were attacked by the Trump mob as "drama queens", "whiners", and you were "ashamed to even call them men."

    Your sympathy seems to clearly be with people who would attack the seat of our government and harm law enforcement officers who were protecting our Congress doing their Constitutional duty.

    I have many more concerns about you than any refugee.

    That's completely false.
     
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    I know Carpo is not trying to destroy America. Seems like you are though.
     
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    By all the garbage you posted, it's apparent you have no answer to the question.

    From FOX news:

    "DHS is simply paroling these individuals into the country. That's how they get them here to the U.S., without any immigration status, and then they are doing the checks on the back end. You could have dangerous individuals at these military installations, leaving these military installations in some cases, and we find that they don't pass the screening and the vetting at the end of the day."

    From another source verifying the first.
    "Once in the United States, migrants who fail the vetting process will not be deported, predicted Rob Law, the director of regulatory affairs and policy at the Center for Immigration Studies. He continued:

    Are you really going to deport the Afghanis back to Afghanistan? No. What are you going to do? Send them to another country? No, you’re just going to cut them loose and probably going to cut them loose with a work permit."

    PLUS

    DHS is refusing to say everyone will be vetted BEFORE they are released into the country. They know they would be caught in a lie.
     
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  8. Baptist Believer

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    The "garbage" is YOUR words and allegations. I agree that it is garbage, but I didn't expect you to agree.

    Actually, I do, but it is ridiculous that YOU are talking about your fears of people destroying America when it is clear that you supported the assault on our Capitol. Have you changed your opinion since you wrote that garbage?

    That's not "From FOX news," that's Chad Wolf's fear-mongering opinion that was broadcast on Fox News. There's a difference between fact-checked, ethical journalism (from Fox News), statements from opinion pundits (Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity) which should not be taken as anything but opinion, and statements from interviews with guests (for instance, Chad Wolf) that have various levels of credibility.

    Chad Wolf is not a credible person at all.

    Just because you see it on the TV, read about it on a website, or read something in a chain mail from your crazy uncle, doesn't mean it is true.
     
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    Republican Tom Tiffany raises security fears over 2,000 unvetted Afghan refugees | Daily Mail Online

    Oh my, I hope they covid tested them before they were immediately allowed to walk free. Nevermind.

    From this story:
    He claimed that in this year's first quarter, 84 percent of people in Afghanistan who applied for an SIV were rejected. Just 16 percent were accepted, he added, before accusing the Biden administration of 'circumventing' the process.

    Tiffany's comments come after Texas Senator Ted Cruz claimed Afghan refugees can call an uber to leave their holding location in the U.S.

    The criticism came amid a report that an Afghan man who had been convicted of rape and had been deported from the U.S. was allowed to board an Afghan evacuation flight to America.

    Cruz is one several Republican lawmakers who have criticized President Joe Biden's handling of the situation in Afghanistan.

    The Texas Republican senator took an aerial tour of Fort Bliss, one of the military bases receiving Afghan refugees, and said the perimeter around the housing area is 'not secure'.

    He also said officials at the fort told him refugees can order ubers to visit nearby El Paso.

    'The leadership at Fort Bliss told me about one of the refugees who called an uber and took an uber to downtown El Paso and they are not detaining anyone there so if 10,000 refugees arrive there, every one of those 10,000 can choose to leave tomorrow,' Cruz said late on Friday.
     
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    [QUOTE="Baptist Believer, post: 2727637, member: 381There's a difference between fact-checked, ethical journalism [/QUOTE]

    That's right. There is.

    But you obviously can't tell the difference.

    You prefer sources that just parrot whatever the administration tells them. No questions asked.

    Some of them are even trying to make Biden a hero in all this instead of the mindless incompetent boob that he is.
     
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    I don't know that we have a plan. Most likely see where people land. In Nashville I worked with Iraqi refugees (there is a large population in Nashville). Wonderful people. Great food.

    Sometimes people forget we are speaking about people. I hope enough churches still have the mind of Christ.
     
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  13. Baptist Believer

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    You seem to be the deluded person.

    That's a lie.

    There's another lie.

    I haven't seen any. Maybe you should read/watch better sources.
     
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    :Roflmao
     
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    You tell them all about reconciliation with God through Christ Jesus. Remember that the Apostle Paul was once a terrorist. God saves people from all walks of life.
    Be of courage, not of fear.
     
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    Paul was a terrorist? Interesting comment.
    How many people did he kill?
     
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    We have to start with the love of Christ. We have to love people.

    I pray that I am wrong but as I look around I am not sure there is much love in our churches except for a love of one's self, ones "rights", and ones way of life.
     
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    While I hate all the actions by the leaders here,I believe we have to consider if God has allowed some of these people to hear the gospel proclaimed freely and openly.
    Most of us were not signing up for the Afgan mission field, So perhaps as God judges America for national sins, maybe it will have a positive result.
     
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    Yes.

    Reading the poetry of Phyllis Wheatley, a slave in Boston in the colonial days, you see her talking about how God brought her to the colonies so that she might know Christ. Phyllis could read Greek, Hebrew and Latin. The Wheatley family gave her full access to their library. Her dream, unfulfilled, was to go back to Africa and share the good news of Christ to those who knew no reconciliation.

    God sometimes uses what seems like evil to call his elect to their appointed redemption.
     
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    Acts 7:58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.

    Acts 8:1, 3 And Saul approved of his execution. And there arose on that day a great persecution against the church in Jerusalem, and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.

    But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison.


    Yes, Paul was like a Jewish ISIS leader.

    God redeems those we may think are unredeemable.
     
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