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‘It's important for people to recognize he's not a conservative’
- Thread starter KenH
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Liz Chesney ignores the truth that Donald Trump is far more conservative than the radical leftist Kamala Harris. Donald Trump nominated conservative judges while Kamla Harris will nominate leftist or liberal judges if she wins the election.
Kamala Harris and her nominated leftist judges would do more harm to the constitution and our republic than Donald Trump and conservative judges would do.
Liz Chesney in effect betrays her claimed conservative values by supporting the very liberal or leftist Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris and her nominated leftist judges would do more harm to the constitution and our republic than Donald Trump and conservative judges would do.
Liz Chesney in effect betrays her claimed conservative values by supporting the very liberal or leftist Kamala Harris.
Lol.....there are no true conservatives in politics anymore. Conversative is only politically adventatious in word only.
The GOP outlived the DNC, but now they have both died and been reborn into things far inferior to what once was.
KenH
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Yes, there are. There are a variety of political ideologies and philosophies of the size, reach, and scope of government. Some of us are minarchist classical liberal libertarians.
canadyjd
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Liz Chaney has destroyed nothing but her own career by proving herself to be liar. She proved herself corrupt and deceitful while on the j6 committee. She has destroyed any credibility she ever had. She is not a conservative. She is a war hawk, in the pocket of defense contractors who want never ending wars to line their bank accounts with tax payer money.
She destroyed any chance of being speaker of the house. She destroyed any chance of ever serving in a Republican administration.
The only thing she gained is a huge payout from defense contractors.
I get it that you don’t like DT. But if that’s the best you can do, it’s very sad.
peace to you
They are not conservative either.
Think of it this way.....you were in favor of a $118 billion border bill that provided $20 billion to border security.
That is not fiscally conservative at all.
KenH
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No, I am not a conservative, certainly not a National Conservative. I am a minarchist classical liberal libertarian.
I agree that libertarians ate not conservatives. That is kinda my point. Conservatism is essentially dead because it does not equate to votes. People are more interested in where the money goes than how much is spent. Look at Trump. He absolutely skyrocketed the national debt (even brfore covid). Look at Biden. He kept the nation debt going in that trajectory, outdoing Trump.
I am not a libertarian, Republican or Democrat. I am a Christian. That is why the way I live is in opposition to the DNC. This is not by supporting the GOP or libertarians but by living for Christ.
Conservatism seems to equate to votes for Ted Cruz.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/progressives-hate-ted-cruz-but-he-s-proven-he-s-the-right-senator-for-texas/ar-AA1qBA5X?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7e9b98287ab84d6f8b0d37ff0d48e4f9&ei=47
Sheesh @ken, we had four years of him in office. I think people can 'recognize' on their own the CONSERVATIVE supreme court he left to us, among other things.
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I'd say "constitutionalist" rather than conservative (I hope so, anyway).
It just so happens that conservatives are also concerned with the US Constitution.
In his article entitled "Anti-Trumpers Continue to Court Trouble with Incendiary Rhetoric", Mick Mulvaney wrote:
"Back in January, I wrote that anti-Trumpers were playing a dangerous game with their incendiary rhetoric about Donald Trump. I worried then, as I do now, that accusations of impending dictatorship, threats to our democracy, and comparisons (as made by Hillary Clinton, amongst many others) to Adolf Hitler, could encourage mentally unstable people to commit acts of violence against the former president.
I consider myself proven right. Since then, there have been two very real attempts on Trump’s life. And while the same people who attack him verbally for being an existential threat to the nation condemn the violence, they don’t change their eliminationist rhetoric about him in the slightest.
Indeed, just a couple of days after the first assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, a Democratic lawmaker from that state proclaimed that 'we are on the verge of a dictatorship.' And then, stunningly, he went on to blame GOP rhetoric about Democrats being “socialist” for “creating the environment” that led to Trump’s own shooting.
Neither did the first assassination attempt encourage even the highest-ranking Democrats to change their language. Before the bandage was off Trump’s ear, one Democratic senator was already reiterating the talking point that he was 'an existential threat to our democracy.'
More recently, at the presidential debate, Vice President Kamala Harris dog-whistled that Trump was 'attacking the foundations of our democracy.'"
https://thehill.com/opinion/4885373-democrats-blame-gop-rhetoric/
"Back in January, I wrote that anti-Trumpers were playing a dangerous game with their incendiary rhetoric about Donald Trump. I worried then, as I do now, that accusations of impending dictatorship, threats to our democracy, and comparisons (as made by Hillary Clinton, amongst many others) to Adolf Hitler, could encourage mentally unstable people to commit acts of violence against the former president.
I consider myself proven right. Since then, there have been two very real attempts on Trump’s life. And while the same people who attack him verbally for being an existential threat to the nation condemn the violence, they don’t change their eliminationist rhetoric about him in the slightest.
Indeed, just a couple of days after the first assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, a Democratic lawmaker from that state proclaimed that 'we are on the verge of a dictatorship.' And then, stunningly, he went on to blame GOP rhetoric about Democrats being “socialist” for “creating the environment” that led to Trump’s own shooting.
Neither did the first assassination attempt encourage even the highest-ranking Democrats to change their language. Before the bandage was off Trump’s ear, one Democratic senator was already reiterating the talking point that he was 'an existential threat to our democracy.'
More recently, at the presidential debate, Vice President Kamala Harris dog-whistled that Trump was 'attacking the foundations of our democracy.'"
https://thehill.com/opinion/4885373-democrats-blame-gop-rhetoric/
The problem is on both sides (how many times did Trump say Biden, and then Harris, would destroy the country and democracy..how many times did Trump call Harris a fascist?).
I agree that the rhetoric has crossed a line, but I can't blame one side without also blaming the other.
Here is what Vance said , “We can debate one another, but we cannot tell the American people that one candidate is a fascist and that, if he’s elected, it is going to be the end of American democracy".
BUT that is exactly what Trump said of Harris.
Here are a few of Trump's quotes about Harris:
"This is communist, this is Marxist, this is fascist,”
“She’s a Marxist, she’s a fascist,”
If Harris wins we "will be living in a full-blown banana republic ruled by an anarchy and a tyranny."