A Biblical Response on Race
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Jul 19, 2016.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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He's right. The issue (insofar as Christians are concerned) is that people start with their culture and "work it up" rather than with God's Word and "work it down". We are Christians first, and when we identify with Christ first and foremost I believe our racial perspectives change.
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The radical right can't do this because they've either lost or don't care to be able to empathize with their neighbors.
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Problem being that a lot of folks on the right who call themselves Christians haven't gotten past that stage and have amped up their nastiness.
So can I empathize with a Christian treating others the way that purported Christians on the right do? Absolutely not. That's nothing of which to empathize as Christians above all others should be looking to spread the Gospel instead of their own brand of truth based in their politics. -
I can see why that preacher has a mega-church. He's very talented and knowledgeable. But, his sermon is a testament to the dismally racist nature of African-American culture. The sermon panders to and concedes to the racism of the blacks in his audience.
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Gosh your comments get more stupid every day. If African American culture is dismally racist, then they learned it from the dismally racist White American culture.
And if they have learned to pretend as though it doesn't exist, then they must have gotten that from White American culture too.;) -
Affirmative action is meant to level the playing field, but all things are never equal. I have seen men passed over for promotion and jobs in favor of less qualified people of minority. I've even been tasked to offer positions to minorities when better qualified persons were seeking the same job. Those persons who were passed over because of their race were victims of racism. Not only that, but society suffers and we are all victims of the same racism.
In my experience, if a man offers another a job based on that person being a minority race then that is called "affirmative action". If the same man refuses to hire a person because he is of a minority race then that is called "racism". In truth, both are examples of racism. And it is foolish to think affirmative action a "victimless crime." Maybe it is the "lesser evil", and maybe it even is necessary to break certain barriers (just because I don't like that solution does not mean I have a better one), but it is still racism and there is no need to pretend otherwise. -
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Zaac, we are talking about two different things. You are speaking of an idealistic version of affirmative action where race is not a factor (all things really are equal). I like that idea. Unfortunately, that is not AA in the real world. And that is a different topic.
More to the OP, race should not be a factor. We are Christians. That should not be the "primary" driving factor in our lives, it should be the only driving factor in our lives. -
There is only one race on this planet. The Human Race. If everyone, and especially Christians, could just get their heads around that we would all be much better off!
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TCassidy said: ↑There is only one race on this planet. The Human Race. If everyone, and especially Christians, could just get their heads around that we would all be much better off!Click to expand...
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JonC δοῦλος said: ↑Zaac, we are talking about two different things. You are speaking of an idealistic version of affirmative action where race is not a factor (all things really are equal).Click to expand...
If you're complaining about something else, your not complaining about affirmative action.
I like that idea. Unfortunately, that is not AA in the real world. And that is a different topic.Click to expand...
More to the OP, race should not be a factor. We are Christians. That should not be the "primary" driving factor in our lives, it should be the only driving factor in our lives.Click to expand...
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JonC δοῦλος said: ↑In my experience, if a man offers another a job based on that person being a minority race then that is called "affirmative action".Click to expand...
*"A study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene. " -
Smyth said: ↑Affirmative Action is about giving less qualified minorities a job (or school admissions, or whatever).Click to expand...
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Zaac said: ↑That's affirmative action. All things are equal and the nod is given to the person who traditionally hadn't been afforded the opportunity.
If you're complaining about something else, your not complaining about affirmative action.
Yes it is AA in the real world. You and a lot of folks who aren't cheat about what aa is have blamed it wrongly.
Yes it should be. But if THAT were the case, Christians wouldn't be supporting a man or woman for the office of President who is at odds with God's word.
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At an individual level, all things are equal and the position, scholarship, promotion, or job is given to a man because of his race and denied another because of his race then what we have is racism in it's purest form. If, as you say, race is the determining factor in AA then it cannot be anything but racism.
Now, if you were speaking of the ultimate decision being blind to race then that would be a different story. But as it is, in your ideological situation (the determining factor in AA favoring the minority race) is wrong on an individual level. It victimizes one race with the pretense of being "fair". On a larger scale you can talk about elevating one race of people (which doesn't matter at an individual level as evidenced by the poverty level among whites as well...percentages do not matter at an individual level).
The mentality is ultimately to bring one race down and raise another so that the percentages are equal. That, IMHO, is anti-Christian. There is still a man who cannot feed his family because he is a certain color. It was wrong in the past and it is wrong now. Race cannot be the determining factor. AA is still racism.
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