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A vaccine study.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by 37818, Sep 7, 2021.

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    It wasn't that long ago he wanted aspirin banned because it causes severe brain damage. And never drink store bought milk...causes heart damage and cancer....sunblock increases the risk of skin cancer....

    Abandoned Christianity for "spirituality".

    "Joseph Michael Mercola is an American alternative medicine proponent, osteopathic physician, and Internet business person. He markets dietary supplements and medical devices, some of which are controversial."

    The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were “a medical fraud” and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

    Instead, the article claimed, the shots “alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch.”

    Its assertions were easily disprovable. No matter. Over the next few hours, the article was translated from English into Spanish and Polish. It appeared on dozens of blogs and was picked up by anti-vaccination activists, who repeated the false claims online.

    The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus
    Misinformation Online


    That said, if you are into "wholistic alternative medicine", maybe he's your guy.
     
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    I don't really trust most of the ones giving us conclusions these days. I guess the "spiritual not Christian" and "wholistic alternative medicine" thing turns me off from the Dr. I think of hippies....although he probably isn't one.

    And don't get me wrong. I'm a Deadhead. I like hippies. I just don't trust them with my health.
     
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    Well I remember a video by pro vaccers where some were ill post vaccination. And they were women who were getting ill from their vaccination.

    The problem I see is the claim that there has been no ill affects. Which I already know is not true.
     
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    Yep. A 13 year old was found dead the morning after a vaccination. He had an allergic reaction. And think about pregnant women...or nursing women. It'd be like vaccinating a baby.

    I'm not saying the side-effects and deaths from the virus and the vaccine are fake (although I'm not sure that all are really from the virus or vaccine).

    I'm saying the Dr. In the article would not be who I personally would consider to visit for advice. I'm not into the wholistic alternative stuff.

    Definitely not listening to a former Chrustian turned "spiritualist". Makes me think of a professor I once had....black lights, lava lamp and a stuffed owl in his office. Always smelled like Marijuana.

    I buy my milk and steaks from the store. Ain't paying more to be nice to the chickens either. I'm bad that way, I guess.

    But when it comes to a person's health - to each his own. Heck, Keith Richards is still alive (at least he moves around and talks), so who am I to judge. :Wink
     
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    About Dr. Mercola, the author:

    Mercola's medical claims have been criticized by the medical, scientific, regulatory, and business communities. A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial stated his marketing practices relied on "slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[6] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company that they were making illegal claims for their products' ability to detect, prevent, and treat disease.[8] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims [that] clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations and many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."
     
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    All right, let's talk about the claims of this researcher. From David Fisman:

    The website debunking Dr. Bridle's covid-19 vaccine claims has been updated with lots of peer-reviewed science that attests to the safety of vaccines. https://byrambridle.com.

    Who is David Fisman?

    David Fisman is a University of Toronto professor in the area of epidemiology at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health.[1][2] He also works as an infectious disease specialist.
     
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    From the Associated Press:

    CLAIM: COVID-19 vaccines make people produce a spike protein that is a toxin and can spread to other parts of the body and damage organs.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. COVID-19 vaccines instruct the body to produce spike proteins that teach the immune system to combat the spikes on the coronavirus, and experts say these proteins are not toxic.
     
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    Another one is Dr. Lee Meritt who is against this covid vaxx, and believes covid to be a form of weaponized medicine, basically a bio weapon.
    MUST READ! “The mRNA VACCINE IS THE PERFECT BIOLOGICAL WEAPON” — Dr. Lee Merritt | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary (stateofthenation.co)

    Love it! I give it about 3 to 5 years time frame before we really know as the future we can not know until it has already happened, but can we read the signs of the times...
     
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    What needs to be done is to separate the actual need to know truth from the manipulative fearmongering.
     
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    Do you mean signs such as that, per capita, those who are unvaccinated are winding up in hospital and in the morgue substantially more often than the vaccinated?
     
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    All right, let's talk about this doctor.

    From her very own linkedin page:

    Outpatient Laser and Radiofrequency Technologies including Cutera Laser Tattoo removal, Truscupt 3D fat removal, RF Microneedling, latest technology hair removal and more.

    Laser tattoo removal??!! Hair removal??!!

    This is your covid expert?
     
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    In most cases you can, but it takes work and a lot of ignoring other people's opinions.

    Most reputable sources will have a link to a study. Just look at the study (the numbers, not necessarily the conclusions).
     
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    Kirsty Hext: 26-year-old British woman suffers 14 anaphylactic shocks in month since second Pfizer mRNA dose, encourages others to get the shots - The COVID Blog

    This young women sufferred horribly after the second covid shot, yet still insists everyone get fully vaxxed.
    Question is this, is she suffering from a delusional mind control process due to the vax, which was alluded to in the above video link, or simply covid propaganda.

    Die hards, die hard. Seems to me she is high risk for death from any more booster shots of the vax.
    A comment post there said this
    i always say, these cultist will use their last breath to defend the system that placed them on their death beds!
     
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    No, definitely more logical than delusional. Anaphylaxis is an allergic reaction. It would be like someone allergic to laytex discouraging others from an emergency surgery if only laytex gloves are avaliable.
     
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    A game then, of Russian Roulette...since the deadly effects are unpredictable, which is also a psychosis.

    Russian roulette (Russian: русская рулетка, russkaya ruletka) is a potentially deadly game of chance in which a player places a single round in a revolver, spins the cylinder, places the muzzle against the head or body (the opponent or themselves), and pulls the trigger. If the loaded chamber aligns with the barrel, the weapon will fire, fatally (or seriously) injuring the player.
     
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