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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Barry Johnson, Nov 12, 2020.

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  1. Barry Johnson

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    Lost refers to having been already found . Israel is Gods first born son ,who went astray. Gentiles have never been ' found ' nor lost .
     
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    Try the clear verses AFTER the cross . When moses ( read John 3 ) lifted up the serpent in the wilderness ANYONE that looked ,lived .
     
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    He hadn't died until mathew 27 .
     
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    they didn't create an ism in the forth century ,like the one you follow today ' sheep like ' .
     
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    ' CALVINISM. ' There's your red flag right there ,and you missed it .
     
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    Just ' bible believers ' who ,s authority is the bible and not dead theologians with beards .
     
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    Yes in that context
     
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    Yes it is, you can deny it all you like, its not going to be different.
     
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    It's only true to Calvinist but to the rest of the world it's Islamic nonsense. They are also determinist.
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    You coming out of left field. Christ still said who He specifically died for Jn 10:11,15
     
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    You are right Christ is telling us who He came to die for. And unless you are a Jew you aren't one of them. This was said before Salvation was sent to the Gentiles. The sheep in this case are Jews that He came to die for. The Bible wasn't written all at once, It was written in different time periods. Christ said this before He died which started the church period. These people at this time were still living under the Law. These verses do not apply to you.
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    Thats absolutely False. Some Sheep are Gentiles !
     
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    All scripture is related, they meet in Christ.
     
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    You just saying anything. Christ died for His Sheep, His Church, jew and gentile.
     
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    In the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ he came to the Jew first. Because it was the Jews He came to save but, the Jews rejected Him. This changed everthing. When He sent Peter to witness to Cornelius is when Salvation became available to the Gentiles because of the rejection of the Jews.The Gentiles were included to make the Jews jealous.
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    Prove it?
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    Christ died for His Sheep, His Church, jew and gentile.
     
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    God has to do that.
     
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    9 Parthians, Medes, and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea, and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
     
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    In other words you claim what you say is true yet you can't prove it. Christ died for the world not just the elect the saved do not need Salvation. Christ didn't come to save the righteous He came to save the lost.
    Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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