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Alaska's $25 Million Gravel Road to Nowhere

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1843156,00.html
     
  2. Petra-O IX

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    $25 million for a 3.5 mile gravel road?!!!!:eek:
    I could have done that for half the cost
     
  3. LeBuick

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    You took the words out of my mouth, somebody took her at that price...

    I got a bridge I should sell her. It doesn't go anywhere but I'll give her a huge discount. :thumbs:

    I think the Obama camp should make an ad with a family taking a vacation to nowhere. Eveyone's excited and they get in the car with luggage tied to the top and travel down this gravel road but then wait, no bridge. The guy gets out, look into the expanse of space then looks at his map and says, "now how will we get to nowhere?" The kinds all crying and the wife yelling (should've asked directions) and the announcer comes on and says, "is this where you plan to go?"

    Vote Obama, he's on the road to change...!
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    From the OP link:

     
  5. LeBuick

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    $25 million to


    For that price, the could have at least paved it. I think some folks pocketed some of our money.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    Well, I would like to know more about this 25 million dollars before it's written off as a waste. It opens up land development.

    How much is gravel in Alaska?

    How close was the nearest gravel mine?

    Was the gravel trucked in by dump truck or did it have to go by train?

    Were there freezing conditions that perhaps made the cost go up?

    Was the road built on frozen tundra?

    How many laborers were needed to prepare the bed for the gravel?

    What was the average pay for these workers?

    Were the workers state employees or was the work subcontracted out?

    Did the state of Alaska submit the project for competitive bidding?

    Was there a penalty involved if the contract date or a promise of a bonus if the date was completed ahead of time?

    What about the cost of other materials, not just the gravel?

    Is it accessible from other roads?

    Were there other varying factors that were factored in?

    And last but not least, wasn't it the Democratic Controlled Congress that approved this expenditure?
     
  7. KenH

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    If it was before January 2007, the answer is no.

    If it was in 2007 or 2008, the answer is yes.
     
  8. Crabtownboy

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    The money used for the road was money from the killed "Bridge To Nowhere" project. Though the bridge project was killed Alaska kept the money and this project is funded through that money.

    In fact other web sites give a much higher cost figure. See the referenced link to the Alaska Transportation Priorities Project for more information and photographs.

    So, it was money approved while the Republicians held a majority in both houses of Congress.
     
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    And Obama and Biden both voted against killing the earmark and sending the money to help Katrina victims.
     
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    Wow!:BangHead:
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    Well, reckon that little tidbit will come up during the debates? And the Democrats whine about disenfranchisement and put on this big charade that they are for the poor. Wow.
     
  12. Pastor Larry

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    Like the gravel road, it's expensive and it doesn't go anywhere.

    As for paving, in northern climates like that, I am pretty sure paving is a bad idea because of freezing and thawing. It probably wasn't paved on purpose. (But not knowing that gives someone the fodder for a political cheapshot).
     
  13. Squire Robertsson

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    Your guess is very correct. Roads of this type are gravel in the Alaska and Northern Canada.
     
  14. LeBuick

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    I kind of hope it does. Not only will this lead to what actually happened to the money but it will open the door to voting records where Obama will make the 90% with Bush accomplishment loud and clear.

    McCain and earmarks are a good record and he really could have sold himself as a reformer but his VP choice is taking the wind out of his sail. She is the weak link on the ticket in this area and has a very vulnerable record.
     
  15. LeBuick

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    Didn't know that so I will eat my crow.

    LE = The construction company brought in rock crushers so the gravel was made on site.
     
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