Allegations against President Biden

[Baptist Believer]

In a thread devoted to discussing the first federal indictment against President Trump, our friend canadyjd made some allegations regarding President Biden. In order not to derail that thread, I am starting a new thread where I can respond to canadyjd once I get up to speed with his concerns.

Are you concerned Biden, as VP, was accused in an unclassified FBI document to have taken a $5 million bribe to change policy concerning Ukraine?

Please direct me to information regarding this claim.

Are you concerned Biden taunted the media when asked by saying “where is the money”?

Need to research this.

Are you concerned the FBI document alleges Biden would launder the money through a complicated series of fake bank accounts?

If it is true, then yes.

Are you concerned more than 20 fake bank accounts have been discovered through bank records that serve no purpose other than laundering money?

Please direct me to information regarding this claim.

Are you concerned the DOJ and FBI have known all these facts and done nothing to act on them other than stonewall investigators and over site?

What makes you think the FBI has not investigated these allegations?

 

[canadyjd]

In a thread devoted to discussing the first federal indictment against President Trump, our friend canadyjd made some allegations regarding President Biden. In order not to derail that thread, I am starting a new thread where I can respond to canadyjd once I get up to speed with his concerns.


Please direct me to information regarding this claim.


Need to research this.


If it is true, then yes.


Please direct me to information regarding this claim.


What makes you think the FBI has not investigated these allegations?

First, the info concerning this document has been in the news for several weeks now. A whistleblower in the FBI came to members of the house over site committee with the accusation of the existence of this unclassified document with credible allegations of bribery against VP Biden ($5 million) to influence Ukrainian policy.

The FBI refused to hand it over. After threats to hold Wray in contempt, he agreed to allow all members of over-site see it, but not have it.

Now, I know this will shock you, but Fox is the only outlet covering this story. You may have to look to Fox News to find coverage.

Being an open minded guy, I’m sure you won’t be afraid to research Fox for information. Be careful though, the truth can be very painful.

The FBI is hiding the info, not investigating the info. Just like Clinton’s emails and destruction of property. Just like hiding the origins of the Trump Russian collusion fake story to spy on DT though the FISA court, Just like manipulating the media to effect 2020 by planting stories the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

Our federal intelligence agencies have been politicized and weaponized in favor of radical Dems and you should be terrified at the precedence that is being set.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

I just saw where Senator Grassley says the document alleging the $5 million bribe to VP Biden also says the Berisma official giving the bribe has 15 audio recordings of Hunter Biden phone calls and two recordings with then VP Biden as insurance policies.

POTUS is compromised.

The FBI has had this info for years and has not acted. Shameful

peace to you

 

[Baptist Believer]

First, the info concerning this document has been in the news for several weeks now. A whistleblower in the FBI came to members of the house over site committee with the accusation of the existence of this unclassified document with credible allegations of bribery against VP Biden ($5 million) to influence Ukrainian policy.

First, the document is confidential. Second, who has stated the information in the document is credible? Who has made that judgment?

From what I have read, it is an FD-1023 form used to record tips received from confidential sources. The record of a tip does not make the tip true or complete. In intelligence, there are lots of things recorded that may or may not be true. For instance, the so-called "Steele dossier" was a collection of tips received with various levels of credibility.

The FBI refused to hand it over.

For obvious reasons. It has information regarding the source of the tip.

After threats to hold Wray in contempt, he agreed to allow all members of over-site see it, but not have it.

Sure, that sounds reasonable.

Now, I know this will shock you, but Fox is the only outlet covering this story.

That's completely false.
PBS
The New York Times
Associated Press
CNN
ABC News
NBC News
CBS News
US News & World Report
Washington Post

Care to retract your claim?

You may have to look to Fox News to find coverage.

Why should I trust Fox News? The discovery process in the Dominion lawsuit revealed tons of documents and communications clearly demonstrating that Fox News misleads its viewers. I'll stick to reputable sources.

The FBI is hiding the info, not investigating the info.

No, they investigated it (under Bill Barr's leadership) and closed the inquiry. If Donald Trump's Attorney General didn't find it credible, I see no reason why I should assume it is credible.

Just like Clinton’s emails and destruction of property.

That was investigated as well.

Just like hiding the origins of the Trump Russian collusion fake story to spy on DT though the FISA court.

That was also investigated. Then Durham investigated for about two years and didn't find anything of significance.

Just like manipulating the media to effect 2020 by planting stories the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

Since it came from Rudy Giuliani and had passed through so many hands, it is impossible to establish a chain of custody for legal purposes. Also, there is ample evidence that the data was altered. But I'm sure you will disagree with that.

Our federal intelligence agencies have been politicized and weaponized in favor of radical Dems and you should be terrified at the precedence that is being set.

I don't live in terror.

Moreover, I need to see evidence that "radical Democrats" are using intelligence agencies against their opponents. Otherwise, it is just a scare tactic.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I just saw where Senator Grassley says the document alleging the $5 million bribe to VP Biden also says the Berisma official giving the bribe has 15 audio recordings of Hunter Biden phone calls and two recordings with then VP Biden as insurance policies.

Then let's get that evidence. Where is it?

 

[canadyjd]

Then let's get that evidence. Where is it?

The “source” of the info has been identified only as a long time credible asset of the FBI.

I stand corrected that no other news source has reported, though I notice the reports are recent (it’s been a year since the document was first revealed by a whistleblower) and the slant is focused of repubs demanding the document instead FBI refusing to hand it over.

It is an unclassified document that house over site clearly has legal right to have

peace to you

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

As I see it, both parties have always expressed concern for two items:

1. national security…I.E., Cuban missile crisis, Iranian hostages, Quait skirmishes, Korean & Viet Nam etc. Today where does the Russia/Uki BS involve the US security at the behest of our countries bankruptcy.

2. rule of law- my question is, “where did it go?” Instead it’s, well Hillary did this, Biden’s taking bribes blah blah blah. WT heck, prove it then lock them all up instead of ‘It Ain’t Fair’ like whining fish wives! Look we already look unbelievably stupid on the world stage. Grow a set and stop overlooking the actions of the morally challenged and start putting them all in jail. I must admit, I do look forward to the day that we throw Joe Biden in the clinker… personally I’d upgrade these charges treason against the US citizenry with the death penalty enforced…preferably hanging.

 

[canadyjd]

And that is just too far, EWF.

People throw the accusation of treason” around for almost anything. Just like calling people “racist” and “Hitler”. It is used so often and thoughtlessly as to lose its meaning.

peace to you

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

And that is just too far, EWF.

People throw the accusation of treason” around for almost anything. Just like calling people “racist” and “Hitler”. It is used so often and thoughtlessly as to lose its meaning.

peace to you

Civil responsibility is what has lost its meaning, morality has also lost its meaning. Honesty has also lost its meaning with these jokers. I could go on and on but you will agree with me that there needs to be a line drawn in order to stop this grift so why not charge them all with treason and hang the lot of them so future generations will think twice before overstepping their boundaries… perhaps that’s exactly what is needed to restore order.

Note: take a look at how they handle crap like this in Taiwan. They will literally cane ya for minor infractions. I’d be pleased to see Biden take a stick to the face for being a lying crook… that would make my day.

 

[canadyjd]

Civil responsibility is what has lost its meaning, morality has also lost its meaning. Honesty has also lost its meaning with these jokers. I could go on and on but you will agree with me that there needs to be a line drawn in order to stop this grift so why not charge them all with treason and hang the lot of them so future generations will think twice before overstepping their boundaries… perhaps that’s exactly what is needed to restore order.

Note: take a look at how they handle crap like this in Taiwan. They will literally cane ya for minor infractions. I’d be pleased to see Biden take a stick to the face for being a lying crook… that would make my day.

No thank you to adopting Taiwan’s judicial system.

“Hang them all!!!” Really? I expect that is what will be said toward Christian’s during the great tribulation.

Why not be different from the world instead of imitating the world?

peace to you

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No thank you to adopting Taiwan’s judicial system.

“Hang them all!!!” Really? I expect that is what will be said toward Christian’s during the great tribulation.

Why not be different from the world instead of imitating the world?

peace to you

We are imitating the world in corruption and grift already so why not add some disciplinary punishment into the system as a means of curbing the political criminal. I can tell ya, it would be a meaningful deterrent for me seeing a good solid hanging… and didn’t we do that to Nazis and Sadam?

 

[canadyjd]

We are imitating the world in corruption and grift already so why not add some disciplinary punishment into the system as a means of curbing the political criminal. I can tell ya, it would be a meaningful deterrent for me seeing a good solid hanging… and didn’t we do that to Nazis and Sadam?

Well, I think Sadaam’s people killed him without a trial. Mob Justice I guess.

The Nazi’s killed millions of innocents, so the comparison is nonsensical.

It is unseemly, imo, for Christians to be demanding “hanging” for political crimes.

I suppose we simply disagree

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Well, I think Sadaam’s people killed him without a trial. Mob Justice I guess.

The Nazi’s killed millions of innocents, so the comparison is nonsensical.

It is unseemly, imo, for Christians to be demanding “hanging” for political crimes.

I suppose we simply disagree

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you

So what is your crime deterrent?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

When the citizens of the USA are driven to desperation, which is fast coming, then we will be ready to change. One example that’s galling is, We are being infiltrated and invaded from the Latin types. There is a woke Methodist church promoting that the local population needs to learn espanhole in order to communicate with all the illegals flooding the country…. WHAT THE …?!? In other words you have to learn the Spanish to facilitate communications with them . Tell that to my families (probably many of your family as well) who had to go to night school to trade their native languages for the native English language of their adopted country in order to communicate.

And I can drone on…a two party political system that emulates each other… both crooked, just look at the congress Ottoman court .

How’s about being eventually forced to buy battery operated cars or the 17 trillion of US citizens tax dollars to fund a proxy war, or how’s about the higher cost of living via costs of food, gas, heating oil etc. When we going to get disgusted and push for change?

 

[canadyjd]

So what is your crime deterrent?

Scripture tells us that God will punish the wicked. I trust God.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

When the citizens of the USA are driven to desperation, which is fast coming, then we will be ready to change. One example that’s galling is, We are being infiltrated and invaded from the Latin types. There is a woke Methodist church promoting that the local population needs to learn espanhole in order to communicate with all the illegals flooding the country…. WHAT THE …?!? In other words you have to learn the Spanish to facilitate communications with them . Tell that to my families (probably many of your family as well) who had to go to night school to trade their native languages for the native English language of their adopted country in order to communicate.

And I can drone on…a two party political system that emulates each other… both crooked, just look at the congress Ottoman court .

How’s about being eventually forced to buy battery operated cars or the 17 trillion of US citizens tax dollars to fund a proxy war, or how’s about the higher cost of living via costs of food, gas, heating oil etc. When we going to get disgusted and push for change?

Well, I find rest in my Lord and my God, Jesus Christ.

When I do that, the cares of this world don’t seem so overwhelming.

peace to you

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Scripture tells us that God will punish the wicked. I trust God.

peace to you

He also tells us to not concern ourselves with rulers… it He that rules. Guess there is no need then for politicians, courts, police etc

 

[canadyjd]

He also tells us to not concern ourselves with rulers… it He that rules. Guess there is no need then for politicians, courts, police etc

Oh, come on man, you know better than that. God causes nations to rise and fall. God raises up the rulers (both good and bad) and that accomplished His purposes.

The question is how does God want Christians interact with those governments. It is certain God doesn’t want Christians to engage in or support violence.

peace to you