1. When did the practice of having altar calls first start?
2. Are altar calls biblical, non-biblical, extra biblical, none of the above?
Altar Calls?
Discussion in 'History Forum' started by ThankULord, Nov 7, 2009.
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There has always been a call to response to the Gospel. Acts 2 talks about Peter's call to belief. I doubt it was 5 stanzas of "Just As I Am", but there was some form of response for people to confess their faith publically by baptism.
The public altar call is, I believe, a product of revivalism in the 1800's. I use them and think they are a good thing if it is coupled with trained personal workers. -
After the church lost its political protection as being a Jewish sect Christianity became outlawed. Meetings went underground and only trusted believers were given meeting locations. Don't think they needed altar calls.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Alter calls are not just about the saved. It can simply be a time of prayer for some who want the scriptural message to stay in their hearts, a time for recommittment, or even just a moment of praise.
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I never gave an altar call in all my ministry. I mentioned them in sermons, and did experience some people come forward in a meeting.
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Thanks for all your responses.
Sounds like the general consensus so far is that the answer to question 2 is that its Biblical. Correct?
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It was probably almost unknown between Constantine and the Reformation. There is very little information about practice in Apostolic times to Constantine.
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Altar calls/inviting people to "walk the isle" are a recent man-made invention which was developed as part of the "new measures" of the later 18th century. They are un-biblical and are a major reason why we have church rolls filled with lost people who have "walked the isle" and therefore think they are regenerate.
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Personally, I do have a problem when you sing all 4 stanza of Just As I Am 4 times, esp when there are only a dozen of folks or so. I do agree that too many times a person thought a decision was made, simply by walking the aisle. That is the reason it is so important to have someone ready to counsel the individual. -
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Are dancing bears prohibited in scriptrue, not directly, but I suppose if you look at a verse such as I Peter 4:11 it would rule our your dancing bears.
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This is my point exactly. How do we determine what elements are to be included in worship? There are two approaches possible.
The first is called the Regulative Principle of Worship, and is what Baptists have, in varying degrees, historically held. It states that God alone determines what is to be brought to Him in worship, and He has made it clear in the Scriptures. What He has command explicitly, and that only, is to be included. In this approach the Bible Alone "Regulates" worship. It would be a denial of the Sufficiency of Scripture to add to what God has commanded. If it is not command, then it is prohibited, and therefore un-biblical.
The second approach, called the Normative Principle of Worship, says that in addition to what Scripture says, men may invent, create, and add to God's worship based on what men believe is good, enjoyable, smart in their eyes, or useful. This approach has historically been the practice of Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and Lutherans. They do not restrict their elements of worship to what God has commanded in New Covenant worship, but rather add things based on tradition, human "wisdom," and patterns of OT worship (which has been fulfilled in Christ) Over the last 100 years, Baptists have slowly moved away from the first approach and increasingly adopted the second. Of course, most don't even realize this because of our general ignorance of history. This approach says, "If we think an altar call is good, then do it." It all becomes a function of human wisdom, pragmatism (if it "works" - do it!), and often "tradition."
Think of it this way, if men must have a prohibition explicitly from Scripture for everything that cannot be used in worship, then just think how big our Bibles would have to be. In God's wisdom, what is commanded is to done in worship, what is not commanded is prohibited (and thus un-biblical). The Scriptures are sufficient!
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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The fact is that the altar call has done much harm to the souls of men by pressing them to make a quick "profession," quickly giving them false assurance, and then adding them to the church. It is true, there are churches that are more careful than others, and not all are as "high pressure" as some. Yet, in the end, when men add to God ordained worship that which men want to do (regardless of sincere motives) the result is "strange fire" and error.
The point is, how do we decide what elements are to be included in worship. Has God commanded that we call people to walk down the isle to the front of the building at the conclusion of the message, while the congregation softly sings "Just as I Am?" We are to call sinners to Christ, but not the front of the building.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You made several claims of alter calls not being biblical or prescribed for worship but quickly move back to the failed presentation of the gospel. You seem to be all over the place with that. And I would argue that worship is not just a sunday morning meeting but a lifestyle.
The gospel presentation is just that and steps down the isle do not effect it for the good or bad. Being given an opportunity to come down the isle and immediately respond to God is never a bad thing. There is nothing wrong with the alter call and no legitimate criticism has been given. But we do not need to be in a hurry to add people to the membership roles. -
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I believe that ultimately this is an issue regarding ones view of worship. In modern times men have, based upon their own wisdom and cleverness, concocted a new element for worship which was not commanded by the Living and True God, and have boldly inserted it into worship. Again, the question is, who determines the elements of worship? Are we free to invent any new element for worship that we believe is helpful? It appears that this this what you believe.
Again, I realize how much this recent man-made invention has become a sacred cow among the churches. Christ Jesus has not commanded us to include such a practice. That is the only "legitimate criticism" needed for me. May a day come when King Jesus is allowed to rule His church and govern its worship!
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Most of how we worship is man-made. As long as we're worshipping in spirit and in truth, then our most of our manmade customs are permissible. Doesnt' matter if it's altar calls, three hymns, a prayer, and a message, communion from a tray and cups, the use of hymnals, etc etc etc.
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If the use of grape juice and crackers is not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
If the use of kneelers and pews are not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
If the use of musical instruments is not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
If hymnals is not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
If pressed and printed bibles are not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
If the passing of the offering plate is not biblically mandated, they are biblically condemned.
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