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An Amillennial Timeline leading up to the end

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Sigh....what do you believe is meant by flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom? Just quoting a verse tells me nothing about how you understand it. I want to hear from you not the verse.
     
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    Human bodies cannot inherit the kingdom without being spiritually transformed into glorified resurrection bodies.
     
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    There are specific events that will occur in the Great Tribulation that have not occurred.
     
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    The great tribulation happened in 70 AD.
     
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    So I thought. Bub that is not what that means. I suggest you go and do a lot of studying on this issue.Just trying to help you out here and I am saying this as kindly as I can. You probably do not want to repeat that statement again.
     
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    When did/does the marriage supper of the lamb occur?
     
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    They have not happened yet, like the two witness beheaded and lie in Jerusalem streets while the nations send gifts to each other to celebrate.

    Or Babylon like city destroyed
     
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    There are two mentions of tribulation in Matthew 24. The great Tribulation that fell on the Jews in the destruction of Jerusalem. And the tribulation that befalls believers between the first and second coming of Christ. Plus, Revelation is a book of symbols. If you look for the symbol to appear, you will never see it. If you look for what the symbol represents, you can see the events unfolding since the first century.
     
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    The marriage supper of the Lamb

    The fellowship with God conveyed by the old sacrificial system has been superseded by the fellowship experienced in the Lord’s Supper. This meal both brings believers into closer fellowship with God in this world, and anticipates a greater sacred meal, the marriage supper of the Lamb. This feast, at the end of the age, will be an occasion of great rejoicing when ‘many will come from the east and west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 8:11; cf. Matt. 22:1–14; Luke 14:15–24). Indeed, such will be the intimacy of the fellowship enjoyed between Christ and all believers that the feast is described as a marriage banquet (Matt. 22:1–14; Rev. 19:9; cf. Eph. 5:25–27).


    McFall, L. (2000). Sacred Meals. In T. D. Alexander & B. S. Rosner (Eds.), New dictionary of biblical theology (electronic ed., p. 753). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.
     
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    Flesh and blood can only mean one thing. If it cannot inherit the kingdom unless glorified and changed as Paul says. This leaves only glorified resurrected saints in the "millennium" (if there ever would be one), for Satan to deceive and use to attack each other when loosed (per Revelation 20).
     
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    Once again, the preterism falsehood rears its ugly head. Jesus plainly said He will return & rule the world for 1K years from Jerusalem before stepping aside for His Father. (Matt. 24:29-30, Rev. 19:15)

    MMRRPP! WRONG!
    Scripture plainly says it'll be worldwide, & JESUS said if it weren't cut short, NO flesh(man or animal) would survive.

    MMRRPP! WRONG AGAIN !
    IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET! The destruction of J & the temple were NOT the trib. That was part of the "days of vengeance" Jesus prophesied against that generation of Jews for the murders of the righteous, from Abel up to that time. Jesus said the trib would be the worst catastrophes to ever hit mankind, & there have been many worse events than the 70 AD destruction.

    There were some eight months between the two Roman sieges of J. No one had to leave immediately, as Jesus warned. That event is still future.

    But again, the GREAT trib hasn't yet happened!

    MMRRPP ! WRONG YET AGAIN!
    Then, please tell us, who was the "beast/antichrist"? Who was his sidekick, the false prophet of Rev. 13, What did the marka the beast look like? When were they cast alive into the lake of fire? And, most-importantly of all, when did JESUS return in great power & glory, seen by all, as He said He'd be?

    You musta been reading Mad Magazine's history of the world. NONE of the eschatological events have happened yet! I have Encyclopaedia Britannica, Collier's Encyclopedia, & World Book Encyclopedia before me, as well as eleven English Bible versions, & none of those prophesied eschatological events are found in any of them as having already occurred.

    I highly-recommend you toss the pret garbage of Preston, Gentry, DelMar, Sproul, or whomever else's pret garbage you've been reading & study SCRIPTURE, HISTORY, & REality a good deal more!
     
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    Just one little disagreement - when Satan fell like lightning, he fell TO THE EARTH. As the millenium begins, a powerful angel will bind Satan with a chain, & he will be cast into "the abyss", where he cannot deceive men during the millenium. It's very-obvious he isn't exiled now!
     
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    Notice, this is an Amillennial presentation, not Preterist. If you can produce one scripture from the gospels or epistles depicting a physical kingdom instead of spiritual, post it so I can recant and think for a second you are right.
     
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    MMRRPP ! WRONG !
    It has NOT yet happened! When did all life in the sea die? When was all green grass burned up?
     
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    You are denying Jesus' words in Matthew 24 when he told his present audience to leave Jerusalem when they saw the greatest tribulation the world would ever see looming.
     
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    I posted it from Rev. 19:15 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    And Rev. 20 shows this will be on EARTH - Rev. 20:7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

    Now, the Revelation is as much Scripture as the Gospels or epistles are, so it carries as much weight as any of them.
     
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    Jesus is God who has always ruled the nations with a rod of iron....happening now.
     
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    No, he did NOT specifically tell His then-present audience to leave. He said, "WHEN you see...", which THAT audience did NOT see. And Jesus preserved those words to this day. Had those events already occurred, there'da been no need for Him to have preserved them for us.

    OTOH, YOU are ignoring MUCHO Scripture, beginning with Matt. 24:29-30, and virtually all the prophecies of Revelation, not to mention 2 Thess. 2:4, much of Daniel 9 & 11, and Luke 21.

    Deny it all ya want, but you're still presenting pret garbage, phony as a Chevy Mustang!
     
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    Do ya know what "Bah! Humbug!" means?

    if Jesus is NOW ruling with a rod of iron, how come we have ISIS, LBGTQ, Communism, Islam, Bhuddism, etc. prevalent in the world?????????????????????????????????????
     
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    If you realized who you are and your circumstances , you would not accept this humanistic doctrine . Believers are removed , wrath continues and will increase, . A response is required.
    Promises are kept to Israel, Israel accepts Jesus. Rabbis that denied Him are ashamed
     
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