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Andy Stanley: As I understand things he is bad news. He is much different than his father and seems to associate with the Willow Creeks, the Rob Bells, and so forth. Charles is a good Bible teacher and has written some good books. I do not know why his son has turned out so different, but what do you say? Is there any good in Andy Stanley?
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Getting your daily does of Pastor bashing again I see. Grow up.
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far as I Know, ONLY One has NO faults to "bash", that would be Jesus!
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Oh my goodness... he associates with Willow Creek... how awful!
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Yes its these kind of books that sets off flags.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0310494842/?tag=baptis04-20
He no question is holding to arminian theology and seeker friendly methodology. Bad news...
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I was being sarcastic.
Hybels is NOT arminian. He is seeker friendly, but you act like that is a bad thing.
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Define "arminian" theology.
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OH NO! He holds to arminian theology! String him up! Or behead him! Or something, because obviously he can't be a Christian! <sarcasm tag>
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I am usually pretty friendly to those who are seeking the Lord.
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I understand the point you're trying to convey, but to have friends, one must be friendly. Without love, you can't attract anyone.
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Its a very bad thing and I am real concerned about those that think this is okay. Very very concerned about their souls.. But in the meantime read these books.
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I understand the point you're trying to convey, but to have friends, one must be friendly. Without love, you can't attract anyone.
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God brings the converts!!! Its not us but Him! We need to be obedient and let God do the rest! God expects us to hold to His word and to love others yes. But its not us that wins them to the Lord but God!
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Hey Tom, he is very, very concerned for your soul! Did you know that? Sounds like he is questioning your salvation. Could it be?
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Hey Pastorbasher, I think you have enough to do worrying about your own soul. You are not related to Fred Phelps are you?
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Methinks you have once again confused arminianism with pelagianism.
Let me ask you a very serious question: do you ascribe to the teachings of Calvin, Arminius, or Pelagius?
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No thanks. I've been to Saddle Back. I have read Hybel's books. I trust what he says much more than what others say about him.
So are you saying that you are concerned for my soul because I think it's ok?
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Maybe he just needs to worry strictly about the Bible and drop all the isms.
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By my lovingkindness have I drawn thee......both of us agree on this.
TBS, if we don't go out and preach the gospel and show ourselves friendly to the lost, then what will it prosper?
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I dont know you sir nor can I question your salvation.
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Then explain yourself pastorbasher. What about his soul are you concerned about?