I was reading Matthew 28 tonight and read:
Mat 28:2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. Mat 28:4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.
The KJV reads "the angel of the Lord".
I remembered other times I had read similar passages.
Mat 17:2 and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light.
Rev 1:16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, "Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
Is it possible that the angel of Lord that rolled away the stone was Jesus Himself?
Angel of the Lord
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Amy.G, Feb 5, 2008.
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In the Greek of Matt 28.2 there is no definite article ("the") in the text, thus the indefinite ("an") is assumed. The KJV has it wrong.
And the "his" and "him" of 28.3-4 refer to the angel and not Jesus. Jesus doesn't reappear in the scene until 28.9 where he meets up with the women who were hurrying away. -
I preached a message a few years back out of that text. Focusing on the angel who sat on the stone.
Did ya ever stop to think why that angel 'sat' on the stone?
Other Gospel's have angels standing, yet, this angel is sitting. -
The KJV has it wrong. When "an" angel appears, it's a heavenly messenger, but when "the" angel appears, it's a Christophany.
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exscentric Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Not to argue, but to make a distinction - you look to the Old Testament you will find that the Angel of the Lord was most likely Christ.
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Calling the angel of the Lord in the OT Jesus is problematic too. While I don't disagree that it is certainly possible, it probably not EVERY time.
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I figured that the article in that verse was probably not in the Greek, so that leaves it up to the translators to insert one, which means it could go either way.
But aside from that, what about the clothing? And what about the brightness of his countenance? These are descriptions that I only see of Christ.
I don't think we can know for sure, but don't you think it's possible?
Just a thought I had while reading this passage. I'm not trying to prove anything.
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It's not just the KJV that says "the".
Wycliff
2 And lo! there was made a great earth-shaking; for the angel of the Lord came down from heaven, and approached, and turned away the stone [a], and sat thereon.
CEV
2Suddenly a strong earthquake struck, and the Lord's angel came down from heaven. He rolled away the stone and sat on it -
Also, the only entity that the next pronouns could go back to is the angel, not the Lord since "Lord" is not the head verb in the phrase "angel of the Lord."
Plus how would Jesus have "come down form heaven" in order to roll the stone away if he was inside the tomb? -
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His countenance shown like the sun, which was the glory of God, having been in His presence. -
The "character" of the angel of the Lord had already been introduced in 1.20, 24 and 2.13 and 19. In each of those cases the angel is not Jesus.
Also, the description of the angel at the tomb does match some descriptions of Jesus (and God) in the Bible, but that doesn't mean that they are the same. Besides, there are many references to angels outside of the Bible in Jewish and Christian texts that are very similar to the one in Matt 28. In other words, during the time of the NT, it was common to conceive of angels in the way that the angel of the Lord is conceived of in Matt 28. -
I don't know about other texts that describe angels. I'm only going by what the Bible says.
I think it's possible that the angel that rolled away the stone was Jesus, so there. :tongue3: ..... :laugh: -
The angel on the stone could not have been Jesus. Scripture declares in verse 6, "He is not here, for He is risen...'
The angel was not speaking of himself, but of the risen Savior. -
This may be wierd, but I was always taught the angel of the Lord was the archangel Gabriel. I cant give scripture to back that up, but thats what I was taught since I was little.
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Not arguing. Just throwing thoughts out there. :) -
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I like this board because I can throw my thoughts out there and test them.
Thanks to everyone.