The story came out yesterday. It was reported by the MSM. InfoWars was late to the party.
Architect of Oamacare reveals tactics to get it passed.
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 10, 2014.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Laws, much sausage, are best made without knowing the bits and pieces of how they came to pass.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
But....
In the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 Congressman Jim McDermott is shown saying, "No senator read the [Patriot Act] bill".
John Conyers, Jr. is recorded saying, "We don't read most of the bills. Do you really know what that would entail if we read every bill that we passed?" Congressman Conyers then answers his own rhetorical question, asserting that if they did it would "slow down the legislative process."
Both these guys are Democrats so your statement stands. I was technically wrong. However, it has taken numerous lawsuits to be settled to actually figure out the extent and boundaries of the Patriot Act. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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It's funny watching you guys reject the same stories the MSM runs when I post them with a link to infowars.
I suppose the Rev works so hard to find other links to the stories he finds on infowars before he posts them because he's afraid you all will do to him what do to me.
It's okay Rev I understand, there's no shame in visiting sites that make it easy to find lot's of "mainstream" news articles. These other folks might not get it but I do.
Why waste time searching all over the net for news articles when infowars already has them all in one place?
Oh wow! I almost forgot.
THIRD GRUBER VIDEO REVEALS HOW ADMINISTRATION SOUGHT TO HIDE OBAMACARE TAX
http://www.infowars.com/third-gruber-video-reveals-how-administration-sought-to-hide-obamacare-tax/
Really now, what difference does it make who finds it first so long as it's found? Besides infowars has more readers/viewers than most of the MSM does these days. Faux Snews is about the only one that has more than Alex and the average age of a Faux follower is like 72 years old or something! At that age snoozing is about all they can do. Why do think it's called Faux "Snews"? :smilewinkgrin: -
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You can say that again. People still have no idea how intrusive the Patriot act is. And after campaigning against it, Obama expanded it.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
We can oppose the the patriot act without trying to create unwarranted criticism. -
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So Gruber regrets speaking "off the cuff"?
When one speaks the same thing not once, not twice, but three times - that isn't off the cuff.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Like Congress ever passes a bill in 45 days for anything.
It was the perfect storm to give the government obfuscated freedom to do all sorts of things under the guise of "keeping us safe". -
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This is what DNC operatives do. -
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NYT Writer Defends Gruber on MSNBC; Voter Expectations on Health Care Are ‘Completely
During a discussion on MSNBC’s The Cycle about the disparaging comments ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber made about the law’s passage and the “stupidity” of voters, New York Times writer and substitute Cycle co-host Josh Barro sought to defend him by blasting the expectations that Americans have about health care as “completely incoherent” and lying was the only solution to make them happy. Barro told fellow panelists and guest Lauren Fox of National Journal that “what drives me crazy about this story” was that: “Jonathan Gruber was right. Public opinion on health care policy is just completely incoherent.”
From there, he expanded on what he viewed as unreasonable expectations the public places on politicians and policymakers when it comes to health care:
People think we ought to have health care plans that are cheap, that provide high quality coverage to everyone, that everyone should see whatever doctor they want, they don't want their premiums to go up, they don’t want to pay for anything through taxes. Well, what people want is impossible and it's like with the budget, people say, we hate budget deficits, we hate tax increases and you ask them about any programs, they don't want to cut any programs.
Thus, Barro continued the desperate spin of defending Gruber by opining that it is indeed “the public” that “puts politicians in a position where the only thing they can do to make the public happy is lie and so, people lied.”
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You got Obama on the brain. Get help as the conversation has NOTHING to do with defending Obama.
You just don't want to admit that the Democrats and the Republicans have always dealt in producing bills that obfuscate their intent so that they can turn around and use said bills to give themselves very wide latitude to do whatever the heck they want.
You don't have to admit it. You don't have to accept it. And I'm certainly not gonna waste my time trying to prove it to ya.
You're too busy trying to make Obama into the Boogeyman for everything to deal with truth. But in that you're consistent. That's what folks who peddle partisan lies do.:thumbs: -
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