I agree. It seems that people have no problem with compromising the gospel that was once delivered.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
What is the gospel of Christ? There is only one.
Are Catholics saved or even christians?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Soulman, Dec 6, 2009.
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification also can not be ignored where it appears Catholics now agree with sola gratia.
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You're making the false assumption that the church prior to the Reformation was the same as the modern day Catholic Church and taught the same things.
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The posts on this thread show the danger of man believing that he is the author of his own salvation. Some have blithely consigned a billion or so people to the lake of fire.
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
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The Scripture you quote states that the gospel of Christ: is the power of God unto salvation. It does not say that anyone else has the ability or power to save anyone. I noted in an earlier post that Salvation is a supernatural transaction between GOD and an individual. -
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While many folks around these parts knock ecumenicalism and I agree that there can be problems with ecumenicalism, I think ecumenicalism has played a major role in the Catholic church becoming more in line with protestant theology over the last 50 years. This still needs to trickle down from the top to the actual level of individual parishes and parishoners, but these things take a while with an organization as large as the Catholic church. They've come a long way since the 1500s and I think it is in large part from Christians putting in the hard work to be obedient to Christ's prayer in John 17 and Paul's urging in Ephesians 4 despite the animosity between groups over deeply held issues.
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I shall pose a question. I grew up in the Church of England. The Common Prayer Book states that "baptism rids the soul of original sin........" I came to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ during my Confirmation classes at age 13. If I had remained in the Anglican Church, would my salvation be in question because the Common Prayer Book says that baptism (sprinkling) washes me of original sin?
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When I was a young believer and thought that salvation was a cooperative effort between God and man I believed that those in some communions were unsaved because they held beliefs that were not what I considered Biblical. As I matured and God showed me that Salvation was entirely His work I had to give up that foolish belief.
I still believe that there is error in other communions just as I disagree with many things Southern Baptists do. But the foolish errors of man cannot undo the work of God in Salvation else I fear that many would be lost!
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Show me, seriously. It isn't there.
You don't need to know that the Baptist view of justification is the imputed nature of Christ's righteousness that provides, in a punctiliar act, the grace of God in the life of someone who has confessed and believed Jesus Christ.
To be saved, according to the New Testament, you must have faith in Jesus Christ and confess Him as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. That is it. -
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Show me where, in the NT, someone must be able to fill out the appropriate theological questionaire for the Holy Spirit to come into their live.
Also, if I don't believe certain "core doctrines" and am saved, will I lose my salvation?
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This forum is about "Baptist theology and Bible study."
Accordingly, this thread is being moved to a more appropriate forum.
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