Featured Ariz. gov. vetoes religious rights bill

You do know that this was the way to the Nazi plan, eh?

And that God Himself discriminated against the gay lifestyle, was he wrong to do that?

 

Would Jesus and paul attend a gay wedding, and cheer for the married couple, even though they just commited abomination in sight of God?

 

Discrimination is favoritism. And God hasn't told us to not play favorites to only turn around and do it Himself.

He is against sin PERIOD so go away trying to start your usual tired argument to make the homosexual offense special.

 

WRONG!

the law was to uphold religious convictions and beliefs!

I CANNOT support not servicing Gays or anyone else due to having them, but CAN chose NOT to condone and support them with business such as catering gay marriages for example!

You are buying the liberal media viewpoint on this law, not the real one!

 

Where has the government said this? I want to see where the government tells a businessman who says my schedule does not allow time to do this you STILL have to do it.

 

How does a law uphold religious convictions and beliefs? People do that.

Then you do you. It opens the door for somebody else to grab that niche business and hopefully they will love on them and share the Gospel with somebody.

 

What if it was a stoner wedding ? Should a Christian bake shop be forced to make a cake shaped like a bong ? With pot leaf garnishing ? It is legal, now.

 

Then so be it. I've fulfilled the law. that's all I have to do. If I lose in the courtroom of a liberal judge, I will appeal until it is overturned. And it will be. One last time: We have the legal right to refuse service to anyone. It is the law of the land, time- and case-tested multiple times for almost 50 years. We don't need another law that most assuredly will be thrown out as discriminatory and "Jim Crow" in the not-too-distant future.

There is coming a time, Ann, when the laws will be turned on their heads and we will be persecuted, discriminated against, lied about, arrested. Don't expect the courts to protect us then. Be thankful there is a way, for the time being, that we are protected now. The quicker we appear as narrow-minded, discriminatory, bigoted -- as this law would have made us look -- the sooner that former scenario will come down hard on us. It is inevitable. Don't hasten the persecution.

 

What Christian businessman has been commanded to attend a gay wedding? What on earth are you talking about?

 

Nope. Absolutely right.

By duplicating rights we already have in the "we reserve the right to deny service" statute, and by creating Jim Crow laws aimed at gays. Is that the legacy you want?

And you have that right now without making yourself appear bigoted.

Oh, c'mon! You've seen my posts for nearly a year. I'm a liberal, or even "buying into" anything liberal? What a crock!

 

Just say all my bongs tend to end up looking like crosses. :laugh: What are they gonna do? Go tell the police that they demanded a bong shaped cake and you delivered one that looked like a Cross after you told them you couldn't do a bong shaped cake yet they still demanded it? :laugh:

 

I appreciate your posts on this thread. You have been balanced, clear, and fact based despite the hysteria.

 

Not so at all! This bill would have duplicated the "we reserve our right to refuse service" clause in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Plus, as I've said over and over and over again, it would put us in the position of promoting Jim Crowism and bigotry. The government does not say we can't refuse service! In fact, it endorses our ability to do so. We just have to be careful how we do it, and this law would have promoted carelessness on our part as Christians. Besides, as I said, it would be thrown out as unconstitutional, based on the same rulings that outlawed Jim Crow laws.

 

Some of us fundies feel crosses are images, and as such, banned. My question is a serious one. What if you were told they wanted marijuana leaf-shaped decorations on a cake ?

 

Same process. I've found this out before I said "Sure!" So I make a show of looking at my calendar (that's not dishonest, because I'm not going to say, "I don't have time" either) but I do say, "I don't believe I can do this." Give them the name of the head shop/bakery combination across town, say sorry, and thanks, and move on.

 

Then I'd tell them I'm not skilled at that and they need to find someone else who can give them what they are requesting. As TND said, give them some recommedndations of folks who may be able to make those leavs on the cake and call it a day.

 

You do know that right now , the statefed Govt in Az can take a chrsitian to court and fine/possible prison if they object to provoding services to gays like catering a wedding, right?

the law was written to keep our right to refuse to do that based upon relious views!