Arminius on Calvin

Jaocb77 · Jun 14, 2011

preacher4truth said: ↑

Your respecter of persons thing needs thought through. You're not really understanding what it means.

On the contrary, it is actually the God of Holy Scriptures. You're only looking at the facet you like, and as many others cringe and buck when God does as He wills. Romans 9? Don't reply against the Potter, clay.

Consider:

In Genesis 12 He picked Abram of all people to do His will. Sovereignty in action. Or is this Him being a respecter of persons? I say it is grace and Sovereignty. According to your words, you see this as a respecter of persons, when He chooses according to His will.

He picked David as King above all others. Sovereignty in action. Or respecter of persons as He chose him above all others?

He came to die for the sins of His people and save them from such in Matthew. Ditto.

Anyone could construe these passages to mean He is a respecter of persons.

God has mercy on whom He wills, and compassion on whom He wills. And whom He wills, he hardens. And He is just in doing so.

Look at the whole counsel of God instead of proof-texting to prove a point.

There's a context for this respecter of persons verse. I think it means He doesn't show favor to persons because of the person themselves. Thus, all are on the same playing field per se. He does however, according to the Bible, choose those He wills to choose. Therefore, your premise that in your above quote, this is not the God of Scripture is in error.
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Do you then deny that Jesus said all who are hungry and thirsty may come? That God is not wanting any to perish but for all to come to repentance? If you believe In Calvin's view of God, then you would also believe in limited atonement where Christ only died for some.

All through the NT it talks about belief. Believe on the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved.

If God created some men for heaven and some for hell, then how do you reconcile the fact that God originally created hell NOT for humans but for the devil and his angels?

When we look at the God of Scriptures, we realize that he doesn't just love, he IS love. I'm sorry but this isn't even up for debate. Man has free will and this does not negate God's sovereignty.

Those men whom God picked as you mentioned, this has nothing to do with their eternal destiny. Yes, God chooses men to serve his purpose on earth. But what does this have to do with God creating some men for heaven and the rest for hell before the foundation of the world which Calvin taught?

As for God hardening some, He hardens those hearts that are already closed. Those who resist Him and His Son. God never hardens a heart that is open and receptive. Pharaoh's heart was already closed and God gave him over to the desires of his heart.

quantumfaith · Jun 14, 2011

psalms109:31 said: ↑

Acts 10 (New International Version)
34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Acts 10 (King James Version)
34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
37That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins
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Excellent!!!!! I am so glad and fortunate that the gospel is open to "whosoever".

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