Try to follow along.
I know that's asking a lot of you, but just try- ok?
No one has extolled the virtues of atheists, Old & Regular.
I am saying that Christians should be excelling atheists in these areas and to our shame we are not.
I know you probably can't get this, but there is a difference between praising a group with higher numbers and using that group to shame those whose numbers are lower.
Get it yet?
Hypocrite.
There is no more pathetic thing than a hypocrite.
Lambasting people for lambasting people.
Insulting people for insulting people.
The ones who do those things are the KINGS of hypocrites.
You, sir, are the king.
Luke,you were extolling the virtues of atheists. There is no way getting around your words.
And for you to blame the Church for the ills of American society is beyond the pale. So the Church for whom Christ died and for whom even the gates of Hell will not overcome --this Bride of Christ is responsible for America's sins?!
And I was not extolling the virtues of atheism.
Saying I was does not change the fact that I was speaking to the shame of evangelicals and fundamentalists.
What are you trying to say? Do you mean you are castigating false believers, or what. Every single Evangelical and Fundamentalist is not a Christian --but true believers in their ranks are certainly The Church --not the church.
I find it difficult to believe any congregation would tolerate it. I also find it hard to believe that any congregation would find it credible when he says things like the op. It is also possible that what gets said on the BB never sees the light of day at his church.
One thing we should remember is that posts on the BB in no way tells the entire story of our lives. I do not like they way he posts. However, unless he espouses some heresy I will assume he is a good pastor and he is fulfilling the calling God has on his life.
One of the things that gets lost in a forum like this is that this is not my congregation and I am not the shepherd of BB.
Here I am a debater, not a pastor.
My church is not a debate forum.
There, I am not a debater; I am a pastor.
Conflating the two environments and positions is part of the problem with the way some view me and other pastors here.
Were you not taught never to assume? You either know something or you don't know something. Assuming is where mistakes get made....sometimes dangerious & tragic mistakes. It is also my belief that how you do one thing is how you so everything.