See, this is the problem in trying to interpret scripture apart from context. You come up with a meaning that was never there, that the authors of the scripture didn't intend and the first readers of it didn't see. So, the question is, if the NT teaches it as you maintain, why didn't the early church see it there? Why did it take 1500 years for someone to see it there? The reason is because it took 1500 years for anyone to read the NT with the mindset that Calvin and Luther had -- a legalist, rationalist mindset that was absent in the early church.
Further, a doctrine that was an expansion of the RCC Satisfaction theory, itself invented 1000 years after Christ, should be suspect and discarded on that basis alone.
See my post in the PSA thread for links dealing with Isaiah 53 and PSA.
One short and simple scripture support for my atonement view is where Jesus said that He came to give His life as a ransom.
Baptism question
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by ntchristian, Feb 3, 2022.
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What the early churches believed is found in the New Testment documents. Being 1st century. The post Apostolic churches that you refer to, are post New Testament not being 1st century. -
See Acts of the Apostles 8:26-40 regarding the Ethiopian eunuch.
In regards to "PSA", I recommend ignoring what has been taught by anyone historically, and simply read His word for yourself.
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I am saying that any doctrine that was truly taught and believed in the NT and first century church was also taught and believed in the early second century church. Conversely, if not held in the early second century, not taught in the first century. -
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Thanks robycop3 and Dave G for your posts.
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