Here is another one. For those of you who say that we monly need to believe, that neither faith nor repentence is involved in regeneration then I have this question.
Why is believing not works but faith and repentence are? And what is your scriptual reference.
Believe v. Faith and Repentence
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Jul 19, 2007.
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You simply cannot place two things that are the same as being different, any more than you can make two things that are different, be the same. "A" ="A"; "A" does not equal "B"!
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I think believing in God in the Bible is always indicated by a change in one's actions, attitudes and motives. Faith that doesn't produce works really is dead. On the other hand, flesh-driven "good" works without faith in Jesus are devilish and lead many straight to hell. We are saved by grace through faith (that evidences itself in our actions, attitudes and motives).
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Realize that one can grieve or quench the Holy Spirit. Faith without works is dead because if one believes that he should do good works and he doesn't do them, it shows that his faith is useless for the cause of Christ.
Belief in Jesus is not a work because it is ingrained into one's being. Upon hearing the Gospel or however the belief came about it came without needing to earn it. If one hears the truth one may not want to believe it, yet it makes too much sense to resist. One may struggle with wanting to believe it, yet believes it anyways.
Try convincing yourself not to believe in Jesus. Can you do it or is it irresistibly ingrained into your logic so that you cannot get rid of it? -
But I'm not sure faith and repentance are works either. Works are those things that appear in the flesh. What flesh is involved in repentance and faith? I believe that the first work is "confess with thy mouth" what is already in the heart (already saved), Rom 10:9-11.
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