http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
Is this the lawless one?
........In Syria, the Jewish community held a celebration this weekend because the uncut stones, protected from any metal touch them.... and the laying of the cornerstone for the rebuilding of the altar was laid. The motto, very strange considering its 'secular' content, was "Trust in God, not in Obama!".
Birth Certificate Found
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by windcatcher, Aug 3, 2009.
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This is fairly funny find. They've been showing this all day.
I'd say Clinton and McCain both investigated this thoroughly and neither of them found a Kenyan BC, so chances are this didn't exist back then.
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Yes, I was waiting for someone to get excited over this. About as authentic as Dan Rather's documents on Dubya's military record. WingNut Daily earns its name once again.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
I could be mistaken, but I don't think Kenya became a republic until 1963.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
I was wrong, it was 1964.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
Wrong again, the article addresses this fact....
Also, WND never says this is the actual document, this seems like a pretty unbiased report. -
The part I found funniest is that it's a certified copy.
The birthers said they didn't accept certified copies and are demanding the original long form.
So I guess they take a certified copy from Kenya but not from HI. -
The copy was generated in 1964. And stamped with the Kenyan seal as a certified copy at that time.
I just recently obtained a certified copy of my birth certificate. It is sealed and notarized with the current place and date.
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So we accept a document from Kenya before we accept one from American's. -
The form from Hawaii is wrong. The "certified copy" is not a certified copy of the original certificate. The form shown was not in use in 1961. Therein lies the problem.
My copy of my birth certificate is a copy of the form used at that time. It is even handwritten and not typed. IE a real copy.
Obama has never produced a real copy of the real certificate and has spent over $800,000 trying to make sure he doesn't have to.
My copy cost $23. -
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I haven't accepted it. It may be a forgery or just not authentic in some other way.
But the question remains...
$23 vs. $800,000
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
This is poor reasoning. The President is going beyond just not responding. In fact it is completely false that he is not responding. He responds each and every time with his attorneys who fight any request for the original documents. He is spending untold hours fighting all of this. It would all come to an end if he would release his long form as McCain did.
If it were so moronic that we should verify his eligibility then congress would not have looked into McCain's situation. -
Since it is a constitutional requirement, no president should object to upholding the constitution they are sworn to uphold by just producing the document.
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Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth. -
Why is it worth $800,000 to keep from releasing the original birth certificate and living up to his oath of office?
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Then there is the fact that the State of Hawaii says, on the certified copy of his birth certificate, that he was born in Honolulu (Picture).
So, I suppose we are left with a choice. We can take the State of Hawaii's documents at face value or we can say that the Kenya document is more trustworthy. I find the latter a bit hard to accept.
It seems to me that this story had run its course until the release of this new document. That in itself could be the reason for its sudden appearance. After all both the Hillary For President campaign and the McCain For President campaign looked into this story. If a birth certificate from Kenya was avalible, I'm sure they would have found it. Or, at the very least, some other media outlet would have found it. In which case, Obama would have been forced out of the race and Hillary Clinton would have gladly accepted the nomination.
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