"Brand New" A Message series on the Temple Model vs. the Jesus Model

http://brandnewseries.org/

 

QF,

Thanks for making these available.It will take sometime to go over them. Are you looking for feedback, or just offering them up?

 

I like this take on "Temple Model".

http://www.piratechristian.com/figh...nity-andy-stanleys-re-write-of-church-history

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Some truth....some error.....it is more true with the RC church....but it is suicidal in reference to the church....still have to go back over it.

 

Just offering them up for your enjoyment, appreciation and edification. I found all messages interesting, informative and challenging....but particularly the last one.

 

Thanks for your input and confirming for me that a Temple Model thinking is indeed an appropriate metaphor.

 

So am I hearing "Andy Stanley is right" ?

For the record, I wouldn't follow Andy out of a burning building.

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Isn't Freedom of the will great.

 

Meh.... Andy will cave on same u-know-what marriage soon. Seeker-sensitive is NOT orthodox Christianity.

Don't let me stop you in thinking that Andy is correct.

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You won't stop me from agreeing with Andy. You won't prevent me from thinking for myself. I will try hard to not let you prevent me from loving people and yes SEEEKING to persuade them to a relationship with God through Christ.

 

People are lost in their sins, qof.
They aren't avoiding churfh because they think it is lame.

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And if I offended you, qof, and somehow left the impression that evangelism and gospel preaching was not important, then I apologize, brother.

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No you did not offend me, it is obvious that we have different perspectives. I do agree people are lost in their sin....as was the same for you and I. But yes. I do think MANY are turned off from "traditional church". I love people who are seeking to know and understand things....spiritual things.
Let me add.....even though I have strong disagreement with John Piper (pick your reformed leader) I would indeed follow them out of a burning building.

 

Would you follow Stevie Wonder? Just kidding.

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