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Britain's Climate change police killing it's elderly citizens

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by carpro, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Delingpole: 48,000 Britons Died of Cold This Winter; UK Government Praises Climate Policy Which Helped Kill Them


    Britain has just suffered its worst winter death toll in 42 years.
    According to the Daily Star:

    It is estimated that 20,275 Brits more than average died between December and March.

    An additional 2,000 deaths more than average were expected due to cold conditions between March 23 and 31, this winter’s average death rates show.

    Campaigners have called the deaths a “national tragedy” as cold weather victims fatalities could be prevented – especially in the elderly.



    Here is what Energy Minister Claire Perry had to say on the tenth anniversary of the 2008 Climate Change Act – the most ruinous and pointless piece of legislation in recent British parliamentary history – which is largely responsible for making energy so expensive that the poor and vulnerable cannot afford to heat their homes.

    Momentum on climate action is accelerating with the UK in the driving seat. Climate change is no longer just a phrase used by environmentalists and scientists, it forms part of our everyday narrative. This is the moment not only for global efforts to reduce our CO2 output, but also for the growth of green industries and for international climate collaboration.

    Climate change crosses party political lines and doesn’t respect borders. That cross-party support for climate action and UK leadership was demonstrated in 2008 with the introduction of the historic Climate Change Act, setting an ambitious legally-binding target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 80% of 1990 levels by 2050.
     
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    Hard to believe!
     
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    Not the climate change policy but the reduction of financial support for all the needy, not just the elderly.
     
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    How about lets make these resources affordable and quit driving prices sky high just to reduce the use of them. The climate change myth is a flat out lie and people should not be dying for a lie. Shame on the UK
     
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    This is a pretty shameless reach here. Similar threads to this from the other political party are soundly shouted down and rightfully so.
     
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    This is NOT a simply cause/effect result.

    No-one died because of the climate change policy; they died because they couldn't keep warm - couldn't afford heating bills.

    All of these old folk will have paid into the pension scheme & pensions were intended to provide for basic needs. The logic should be that PRESENT pension payments by people still working should pay for present pensioners - 80 y-o pensioners (I'm 79) will have paid into schemes adequate for many years ago, but could not allow for inflation. We stopped earning 20 or more years ago, so most of us have not been able to invest in home improvements, insulation, replacement boilers, etc, out of income.

    A payment of £200 pa is made to all qualifying pensioners regardless of income - dating from year 2,000. It hasn't been updated with inflation.

    Low wages, & wage rises below inflation, mean private pension payments are only for the well-paid. Delays & refusals of claims for supplementary benefits - even benefits - are a national scandal.

    Taxation policy & tax avoidance reduce the amount available to support people who have worked all their lives, or had their jobs exported by the closure of home industry making them unable to plan for retirement.
     
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    They died because climate change policies drove costs up.beyond affordability.
     
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    I've just moved into a country bungalow already equipped with solar panels generating up to 4 Kw - more than enough most of the time so the excess is bought by the electricity company. We run lights, computer, TV, cooking & an oil-fired boiler.
     
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    It's your governments responsibility to save the lives of their elderly by keeping them from freezing to death.

    We (the elderly) here also became expendable under a different scheme - ObamaCare.
     
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    LOL

    Money doesn't grow on trees. If you would be willing to pay more taxes to sustain your welfare state, send them a check. I'm sure they would cash it. They might even send you a letter of thanks.

    But that wouldn't change the cost of energy for the elderly and poor to stay warm.

    So while you're making changes , roll back that stupid climate change policy that caused the increase.
     
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    ESPECIALLY the elderly - They paid into the system all their life, so now as they are ready to meet their maker - uh, just turn off their heat - goodbye grandma, grandpa thanks for keeping the nation (or empire) afloat all these years.
     
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    But money, in the form of energy, does grow on trees when they are sustainably planted & harvested, it shines down with the sun & blows in with the wind. I expect a near zero electricity bill because of my solar panels.
     
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    Oil fired? Why you polluter you.
     
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    You win! Dumbest, most uncaring, remark today.
     
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    Obamacare was the beginning of the reality of the 70's movie "Logan's Run"
     
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    Let me know how that works out for you.
     
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    Wonder if the solar panels were free and if thewy're not, could the elderly poor afford them?
     
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    Exactly. My neighbor put in a huge array of panels. They have a life expectancy of 20 years. He has them financed for 15. Last year his energy savings minus his finance payment for the panels netted him $300 and some odd dollars. In the long term, he will lose money on them.
     
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    Ours were installed ten years ago with a government grant.
    Many new homes are built with solar panels. Including sheltered homes for the elderly. They are unlikely to be the main source of heat in the winter.
    Most pensioners couldn't afford to install them.
     
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    Your panels are obsolete and need upgrading. Just saying......
     
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