Calling All Open-Minded Reformed/Calvinist

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Oct 20, 2021.

  1. Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    In fact, I would argue that John 3:16 does not deal with individuals at all so I do not know why people try to make it do so.
     
  2. RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Correction, I interacted with him more than 30 years ago.
     
  3. George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    Just pointing out that Calvinism and Arminianism are both wrong.
    That's why it's hard to convince either side that the other is right.
     
  4. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    I don't follow either!
     
  5. Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    Even though he really does not understand what we hold regarding the Doctrines of grace?
     
  6. Mikey Active Member

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    Which view do you hold to?
     
  7. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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  8. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    neither do the reformed!
     
  9. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    then you argue wrong! The English "whoever" is the Greek "Πᾶς", which is in the SINGULAR number, meaning INDIVIDUALS.
     
  10. Mikey Active Member

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    an idiotic response.

    Are you unable to explain what you actually believe?
     
  11. Reynolds Well-Known Member
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    You are probably right, but must the "ignorance" accusation be leveled in every discussion about Calvinism.
    You do realize there are people who understand but do not accept Calvinism.
     
  12. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    Why is it idiotic when you know from my many posts what I believe
     
  13. Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    You might want to rethink how language works. The whosoever is not a word on its own, it is whosoever believeth. It is a group of individuals.
     
  14. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    God loves the entire human race. But only those who repent and believe will be saved
     
  15. Mikey Active Member

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    Because saying "the bible" tells everyone nothing. You mentioned that your aren't a Calvinist or Arminian, so what are you? Or do you hold to views unique to yourself?
     
  16. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    I have been a born again believer for almost 40 years, and have never read the works of either side. the greater majority of my commentaries and theological books are from Reformed authors. I have over 500 books.
     
  17. Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    ALL claim that, even the Cults!
     
  18. Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    I do not mean that he was stupid, but that he was attacking theology he really did not fully understand!
     
  19. Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    So you have a vast library of reformed writers that you have never read??
     
  20. AustinC Well-Known Member

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    Your statement is Works salvation.

    Let's turn it around properly.
    Only those saved by grace will repent and believe.