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Featured Carnal Disobedient Christianity vs. Biblical Obedient Christianity

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Protestant, Oct 26, 2015.

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  1. DHK

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    No he does not. He refers to him as a brother. He refers to him as a brother in verse 11.
    The context is speaking of the members of the church--believers.
    "fornication among you," the members or believers of the Corinthian Church.
    If he were not a member no disciplinary action would be needed. One would simply ask the person to get up and leave and don't come back. Discipline is taken because he is a believer.
    Check the instructions of Jesus in Matthew 18 which must be followed!

    Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
    --The dispute concerns only Christians. "brother"

    Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

    This may be a carnal Christian, but not every carnal Christian is under discipline. Thus your paradigm is not logical. This passage is speaking of those put under discipline.
    --Go to chapter six where some of the Corinthians were continually taking each other to court.
    Were they not allowed in church, not allowed fellowship, and turned over to Satan? Of course not.

    The claim is made that "carnal Christian = unsaved."
    However all sin is carnal, and no sin comes from the spiritual nature but rather the carnal nature.
    Therefore if one were not to have a carnal nature or deny his carnal nature he would have to be sinless. We all sin. We sin out of our flesh, that carnal nature--not the spiritual.
     
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    The OP stated:
    From the beginning this thread was an attack thread--an attack on John R. Rice. It should have been closed immediately but wasn't.
    John R. Rice has been charged with "not having the Spirit of Christ."
    Therefore he is charged as not being saved.
    He is charged as having "Carnal Christianity."
    Therefore he does not have "the Spirit of God that sanctified him."
    He is "an enemy of Christ."

    These are some of the charges brought against Dr. Rice, a man who has made his mark in history as a godly man, leading many to Christ, having written many books that have helped hundreds of people, and blessed thousands more. He has preached hundreds of times, done more in his lifetime for Jesus Christ that either the one who started this thread or perhaps those that sided with him put together ever will. The thread should have been closed long ago. I will close it now and apologize for not closing it sooner.
     
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