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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Samuels, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Samuels

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    You mean there are no passages which prophesy the use of sign gifts after the Apostolic Age?

    Methinks there are no passages which talk about you being born.
    Yeah, you must be a figament of my imagination! ... Unbelievable.

    Paul called himself an apostle many years after Acts.
    'Tis a shame that you seem to be calling Paul a liar.
     
  2. Yeshua1

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    No, Paul was an Apostle born out of due season, the real replacenment for Judas, and the Age of Apostles ended with John, not Paul!

    No need to have signs and wonders after Apostolic Age, was there?
     
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    Ah, yes ... another proof that this guy should not be allowed to be a member here.
     
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    'If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us' (1 John 1:8-10).

    How is our Lord 'just' in forgiving sins? Don't they have to be punished? Yes they do, and they have been-- in Christ. He has become for us 'wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification and redemption' (1 Corinthians 1:30; cf. also 2 Corinthians 5:21). Christians are perfectly righteous before God in Christ. We can enter heaven because we are clad in the perfect, spotless righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. However, if someone says, This is great! I can sin as much as I like and magnify God's grace (Romans 6:1), that is an impossibility because Christians are born anew and they cannot live as they used to (1 John 3:9, which cannot contradict 1 John 1:8).

    'When Samuels tempts me to despair,
    And tells me of the guilt within,
    Upward I look and see Him there
    Who made an end of all my sin.
    Because the sinless Saviour died,
    My sinful soul is counted free;
    For God the just is satisfied
    To look on Him and pardon me.

    Behold Him there! The risen Lamb,
    My perfect, spotless righteousness,
    The great unchangeable I AM,
    The King of glory and of grace.
    One with Himself, I cannot die,
    My soul is purchased by His blood;
    My life is hid with Christ on high,
    With Christ, my Saviour and my God.'

    [Charitie Lees de Chenez]

     
  5. Martin Marprelate

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    Yeshua 1 is not the one trying to teach legalism and Pelagianism.
     
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    There are none.
    Leaving aside the pathetic attempts at ridicule, you do realise, don't you, that this argument has been made by the Church of Rome to justify all sorts of unbiblical practices and could be used to foist any heretical doctrine on the Church?
     
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    Do you have ANY scriptures to provetha God demanded signs and wonders to continue after John died? Any to support that we Must do toe tings in order to have te real Gospel?
     
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    Think that our friend is way deep into Charasmatic Chaos, with a dose of misunderstanding Justification to boot!
     
  9. Samuels

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    Do you two have any idea at all ...
    why you're the only ones trying to dialogue with me?
     
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