What's next? God is like a commode because He gets rid of your filth?
Come on folks. Stick to the Bible. It teaches us all we need to know about our Heavenly Father.
Celebration of Discipline by Foster
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by tinytim, Oct 26, 2010.
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From other posts:
Remember the message does not change, but the method of presenting the message may change. It is the message that is important, not the method.
An example:
I heard this story when I was a teenager. A missionary was working with people in an African country where sheep were unknown. To say that Jesus was a 'good shepherd' would have been meaningless to those he was preaching to. The important animal to these people were pigs. So the missionary said, "Jesus was the good pig keeper." This was meaningful and carried the message of Christ to them and some accepted Jesus as their savior. Don't get hung up on method or cultural language. Carry the message to people in ways they can understand. -
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People come to Christ by the Word. They grow closer to Him by studying His Word, and by praying to Him. How do we pray to Him? Using contemplative techniques? NO! Jesus said "Don't pray like the pagans!" He then gives us a model for how we should pray, and it did not include thinking about whiteout.
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Jerome said: ↑Answer: desiringgod.orgClick to expand...
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Amy.G said: ↑What do you suppose they thought about the "good pig keeper" when they read in the bible how Jesus allowed the pig herd to be drowned in the sea?Click to expand...
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tinytim said: ↑Ok, just what is heresy about sitting still before the Lord, listening for him, and contemplating and reflecting on what He is showing you? How is that heresy?
God was in the still small voice to Elijah.
This way of praying, meditating is opening up many new thoughts.
For instance, Monday morning, we were in our circle, and we had to remember our baptism. Relive it in our memory... going down in the water, letting the water cover us, coming out of the water.. etc. then we were to reflect on what that experience meant to us.
Well, when I was remembering coming out of the water, I remember an uncle of mine coming to the shore to hug me.. (I had forgotten that, but when I was forced to slow down, in silence I remembered it)... this is the uncle that our family didn't get a long with, and i realized I had anger toward him.. .deeep hidden anger... that I didn't know I had, and I heard God telling me.. ."Call him to say you love him... do it today".. .well of course it wasn't an audible voice, but the inward small voice of God all Christians hear if they are listening...
Short story... I called him up, and we reconciled.
How can this be bad. It is not unbiblical... Be still and know I am God.... etc..Click to expand...
Richard Foster and his ilk are nothing more than wholesale mystics peddling their wares to the evangelical churches. You have stated with Foster, and if you continue you will continue along the lines of existentialism until you are quite blinded by it that you cannot see the error your in.
You want to meditate? Mediate upon the Holy Scriptures. The Scriptures are sufficient to fully furnish you for every good work. THe Scriptures alone are profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction in rightousness. The Scriptures are the Word of the Living God which more powerful than any two-edged sword, being a discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
God does not give you guidence and truth through inward imaginative journeys. God guides His Church by His Spirit through the Scriptures. If you love the truth more than you love your experience, then I would encourage you to start critically examining what you are receiving.
Richard Foster is mystic Quaker. Looking into Quakerism. Look at how true theologians dealt with quakerism.
I am still absolutely flabbergasted at the ease at which churches swallow these false teachings. The fact that seminaries allow this crap is beyond me. I can only conclude that it the judgement of God against the churches. Or perhaps this is the spiritual adultery and the judgement yet comes. But make no mistake about it, when you seek for oneness with God apart from the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY mediator between God and men, and the Scriptures Alone as the ONLY source of revelation, then you will end up in idolatry and heresy.
"Christian" mysticism is itself the heresy. Contemplative Prayer, so-called, is heresy. What your guru is calling meditation is eastern mystical meditation, not biblcial meditation. -
ReformedBaptist said: ↑What you are engaged in is the mystical practice of meditation, not the biblical practice, and you are seeking to justify it pragmatically by your experience.
Richard Foster and his ilk are nothing more than wholesale mystics peddling their wares to the evangelical churches. You have stated with Foster, and if you continue you will continue along the lines of existentialism until you are quite blinded by it that you cannot see the error your in.
You want to meditate? Mediate upon the Holy Scriptures. The Scriptures are sufficient to fully furnish you for every good work. THe Scriptures alone are profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction in rightousness. The Scriptures are the Word of the Living God which more powerful than any two-edged sword, being a discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
God does not give you guidence and truth through inward imaginative journeys. God guides His Church by His Spirit through the Scriptures. If you love the truth more than you love your experience, then I would encourage you to start critically examining what you are receiving.
Richard Foster is mystic Quaker. Looking into Quakerism. Look at how true theologians dealt with quakerism.
I am still absolutely flabbergasted at the ease at which churches swallow these false teachings. The fact that seminaries allow this crap is beyond me. I can only conclude that it the judgement of God against the churches. Or perhaps this is the spiritual adultery and the judgement yet comes. But make no mistake about it, when you seek for oneness with God apart from the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY mediator between God and men, and the Scriptures Alone as the ONLY source of revelation, then you will end up in idolatry and heresy.
"Christian" mysticism is itself the heresy. Contemplative Prayer, so-called, is heresy. What your guru is calling meditation is eastern mystical meditation, not biblcial meditation.Click to expand... -
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lol... bump back for fred's wife... LOL
Actually I was going to let this thread die.. It's obvious, many here don't see eye to eye with me on this... so, I was just going to agree to disagree....
You all have a wonderful, blessed Sunday!
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