Oh but I believe it has.
Continuing the eschatology
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by prophecy70, Oct 11, 2017.
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David Kent Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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You know full "the moon turning to blood' will be its APPEARANCE, same as has been seen during lunar eclipses. Many ancient people didn't know any better.
And I'm sure you can see from Scripture that both the beast from the sea & the beast from the earth do things only a man can do.
I believe you're quite-intelligent enough to know about descriptive metaphors. For example, Hitler is often described as a "monster, but we know he was a man, same as we. But his ACTS were "monstrous". Same for the 'beasts". They'll be men, who will do "beastly" things. -
Now, there were several months between the sieges of J by the Romans, first by vespasian, then by Titus, when the city was taken. People had plenty of time to flee, not with the urgency Jesus warned about. So, this must be for yet another attack against J, most-likely by the Gog-Magog army. -
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Im not trying to be silly, Im trying to figure out what your key to literalism is.
So how do you explain this? Im asking seriously How?
Ezekiel 32:7-8
7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.
8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God.
Amos 8:9
"In that day," declares the Sovereign LORD, "I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight.
Isaiah 34:4-5
4 All the host of heaven shall be dissolved,
And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll;
All their host shall fall down
As the leaf falls from the vine,
And as fruit falling from a fig tree.
5 “For My sword shall be bathed in heaven;
Indeed it shall come down on Edom,
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The people of the Church in Jerusalem were commanded by an oracle given by revelation before the war to those in the city who were worthy of it to depart and dwell in one of the cities of Perea which they called Pella. To it those who believed on Christ traveled from Jerusalem, so that when holy men had altogether deserted the royal capital of the Jews and the whole land of Judaea…"
— Eusebius, Church History 3, 5, 3
an estimated 1.1 million Jews was said to die. So who didn't flee?
If this was a global event in Matthew 24, whats it matter if you fled to the mountains anyways? You wouldn't hide from modern weapons in the mountains. And whats it matter if it was a sabbath days journey, we have cars now. -
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asterisktom Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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asterisktom Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
For the record, my view on an early date of Revelation came after much study. I was willing to go either way, but once I saw the flimsiness of evidence for the late date I abandoned that very view I had warmer argued for. -
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The “house of Israel does not at this time meet the standard of prophecy fulfillment.
Even IF one were to consider Jeremiah fulfilled in the church, the gentle fellowship has even from the beginning never been described in terms Jeremiah states.
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Yes, the angels present when He ascended said He will return in LIKE manner, not EXACT manner. He will simply DESCEND. Difference is, He will return in great glory and power. I tend to believe He will be seated upon a horse, as described in the Revelation.
A lotta emphasis has been placed on clouds at both His departure and return. When he ascended, He vanished into a cloud, as an aircraft does now. I believe once He was outta mens' sight, He instantly "teleported" to heaven. When He returns, He will appear SUDDENLY from a cloud. The antichrist will summon his army, which, thanx to modern tech, will arrive quickly, but Jesus will destroy it with His spoken word, and the antichrist, with his deputy, the false prophet, will be cast alive into the lake of fire, as prophesied. -
asterisktom Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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From my own reading, the presentation of evens he gives is suspect of inaccuracy. -
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Martin Marprelate Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Paul, in 2 Thess. 2. describes a "man of sin" who will sit in the temple & proclaim himself to be God. That's about as antichrist as one can get! (He's first mentioned in Daniel 9.)
Then, there's Rev. 13, describing both this same man and his deputy, a miracle-working false prophet.
Since the "abomination of desolation" didn't occur in the 2nd temple, there will hafta be a 3rd one.
As for the trib, Jesus prophesied it in Matt. 24, saying if it weren't cut short, no flesh(man or animal) would survive. I believe its allotted time is 3.5 years, but Jesus will cut it short before all that time elapses.
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