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Cost of HS football

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Salty, Sep 19, 2023.

  1. Salty

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    It is estimated that it costs about $1,000 to dress one football payer.
    So if a team has 40 players - thats $40,000 right there
    then the salary of the coaches, other equipment - lights for night games,
    salary of those to prep the field - pay for the refs, ect, ect ect-
    would not surprise me if it cost one million dollars to have a football team.

    Lets say a high school has 2,000 students - then only 2% of the students are on the team.
    Should taxpayers be required to pay for an activity that only a very few participate?
    Yes, I know that school spirit, ect is involved.
     
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    One could ask the same thing about any costs associated with the band, the cheerleaders, the pep squad, the basketball team, the baseball team, other activities where only a few students are involved.

    Of course, the issue goes away if education is separate from government, since education is not one of the three natural functions of government.
     
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  3. Salty

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    The reason I mention football - is that sport is probably the most expensive.
    Cheer-leading is probably one of the lowest cost

    and WHO determines what "one of the three natural functions of government" is or is not?
     
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    There is no person - they are natural functions - just like humans have natural functions - breathing, sleeping, etc.

    "The state therefore has two natural functions, functions essential to the existence of any peaceful, ordered society: to protect the rights of citizens against violent or fraudulent assault, and to judge in conflicts of right with right. It has a further third function, which is another aspect of the first, that is, to protect its citizens from assault by foreign powers. These three functions are expressed by three powers: the police power, which protects the citizen against domestic violence; the military power, which protects the citizen against violence from abroad; and the courts of law, which judge between rights and rights, as well as sharing with the police power the protection of the citizen against domestic violence.

    But since this institution must possess a monopoly of legal physical force, to give to it in addition any further power is fraught with danger; that monopoly gives to the state so much power that its natural functions should be its maximum functions."

    - Frank S. Meyer, In Defense of Freedom: A Conservative Credo, published in 1962
     
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    That's not the whole story with football. A stadium is used for football, track and field and marching band. The coach does get extra but is usually a teacher too. You have ticket sales for every event. You rent out the stadium for other events. You have a booster club and the students go out and make money for the expenses. They hand out programs at each game and all the small businesses in the area buy advertising on the program. They have an electric sign now that runs commercials to defray costs. It's still a net drain I admit. That's why a lot of rural areas don't have football teams but it isn't all that bad overall. And some years it's more fun than watching overpaid, spoiled pros from all over the country masquerading as "your" team.
     
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    Some of my earliest, brief little snippets of memory are being at Sinton, Texas, High School football games.
     
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    Texas. Well, that's a whole different level. And I forgot. Some kids go on to get a scholarship or even play pro. But some don't.
     
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    Cheerleading

    3 uniforms - $800 minimum

    gymnastics classes $80-$100/hr yeppers and it’s 2-3 hours per week or more

    2-3 pairs of shoes over $300 prob about $500

    warm up uniform/sweats $200

    Pedi/mani $100 each event

    hair job. Over $100 each event
     
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  9. Salty

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    But does the school pay for all those expenses ?
    Unifiorms - of course - but Hair jobs???
     
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    The school does not pay for "hair jobs" or nails or gymnastic lessons. In fact, I think the parents pay for the uniforms.

    Football generates a HUGE amount of money for schools. That money goes into the athletic funds that help pay for travel expenses and a whole lot more. Generally for all sports at the school.

    Coaches' salaries are paid out of the general fund that also pays teachers. Coaches are classified as instructors. They have college degrees and generally teach a subject or two.

    Public funds for public/charter schools come from: federal taxes [8-9%] for students with disabilities and students who are economically disadvantaged, state taxes [the overwhelming bulk and varies from state to state], and local taxes [generally a much lesser amount]. Then there are grants, fundraising funds, donations, and a few more things.

    The monies are to pay for salaries, building and grounds, sports,
     
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