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Critics want to ban Franklin Graham from UK

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by rlvaughn, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. rlvaughn

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    US evangelical preacher should be banned from entering UK, critics say
     
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    Do you think that the UK is already totally under the thumb of Islam?
     
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    Critics want to ban Franklin Graham from UK

    I'm a conservative Christian, and I want to ban him from the US. His brand of fundamentalism, the world could do without.
     
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    Could you be a bit more specific?
     
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    Please do, the Graham's haven't been considered Fundamentalists since the early 1950s.
     
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    You profess to be a conservative Christian, yet espouse non-Christian irrationality.

    Do you disagree with his views on Islam? If so, what are your objections?
     
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    A Fundamentalist, not in the classical sense, but in the modern derogatory sense, is someone who has made Christianity into moralism. It's folks who are after proper outward behavior and rightwing politics, as the cure, not the gospel. He seeks to bring about change through political force rather than the preaching of the gospel, and discipleship.

    Here is one example of why I don't like his brand of Christianity:

    Franklin Graham praised Burundi’s President Pierre Nkurunziza for forcing people who were living together to get married.
     
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    Fundamentalism doesn't mean whatever you want it to, obviously. You sound like you are religious left, thatbrian.
     
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    Very Intro >Uk is worse then a commy country!!> More
    than 10,000 Vietnamese filled up a stadium in a rare Christian evangelistic event led by the Rev. Franklin Graham, who said he wants the communist government to consider Christians its best citizens.

    Despite sweeping economic reforms over the past 30 years that made Vietnam one of the fasting growing countries in the region, the ruling Communist Party maintains strict control over all aspects of society, from media to religions. According to Human Rights Watch, more than 100 Vietnamese are in prison for peaceful religious and political activities.
     
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    I think Rev Franklin Graham is Great!!>> MMMMM lets talk about Joel Osteen and Rick Warren !! Now theres Apostasy at its finest!!
     
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    2 Timothy 4:3 3For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear
     
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    I didn't create the different uses of that term. They already exist, and if you insist on single definitions for all words, you would be unique to mankind. Words have many meanings, depending on the context.

    Wrong again on your assumption, but I guess it would depend on your perspective. I'm theologically conservative and spend many hours a week debating Liberals.

    BTW, I'm also politically Conservative.
     
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    How can you be "conservative" if you want to debate the meaning of the theological term "Fundamentalism"?
     
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    I have no desire to debate the term. It's meanings already exist. There are at least two, as it seems you are unaware.

    First, the original meaning was to define people who held to the following doctrines:

    1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
    2. The deity of Jesus Christ
    3. The virgin birth of Christ
    4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
    5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.

    Yet another use of the term is in describing people who are KJV-onlyists, premillennialist obsessed with the "rapture", those who think that America is a Christian nation, etc. I think that FG falls into both groups.

    Lastly, I wouldn't refer to the term, "fundamentalism" as a "theological term".
     
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    First, one has to be a Christian before they can be apostate. There's no evidence that Osteen was ever a Christian.

    Second, after all the heretical and nonsensical garbage you post here on a daily basis, you have no business calling anyone "apostate".
     
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    Exactly the verse that comes to our minds when you post your heretical videos.
     
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    Looks like he's taking the Humpty Dumpty approach: "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
     
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    Graham does not see "rightwing politics" as the answer as opposed to the gospel. He believes for standing up for what is right, holy, and just. Christians should be a voice in this country and in the world for these things. Just because we are does not mean we believe that voice over the gospel. Graham has never claimed such a thing and to accuse him of that is slander and unChristian.
     
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    Liberals usually say they are not liberal, like blue-dog democrats, or moderate democrats, but when push comes to shove, they vote hard left. Pay no attention to those who use their own definitions for terms. This how liberals rewrite the Constitution and the Bible.
     
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