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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by rockytopva, May 20, 2020.

  1. rockytopva

    rockytopva Well-Known Member
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    I am white, with tough luck going in, of Scottish descent, and at one time a very negative guy.

    1. Born on a Marine Corp Base
    2. From town to town and never a popular guy in school
    3. Was convinced I was stupid and made poor grades - Barely graduated high school
    4. Would attend Baptist churches and participated in the retreats
    5. Regrettably fell in with the world and the party scene
    6. Renewed at 17 in a Pentecostal Holiness church
    7. Depressed as my generation did not possess the same spirit as the older and more disciplined generation.

    In the 1990's our factory hired several VT football players who were all black and of Word of Faith doctrine. In all my years of knowing these guys I have never once heard the first negative word out of their mouth, everything they spoke was faith. They called me, "McCwowt" and would say things like...

    "Do you know what over comes fear McCwowt? Action! Action overcomes fear!"

    "I'm getting out of here McCwowt!" And then lay out some plan of escape. They would also come to me asking...

    "What are you believing God for McCwowt?" And expect some great plan that would bring joy to their hearts.

    They were also very schooled in the Word of Faith. If you had any pains at all they would offer to pray for you right then and there. They also broke me of my negative talk and for that I am eternally grateful.

    For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. - 1 John 5:4

    I recommend that new Christians cut their teeth on the Word of Faith. Moving on once the faith is in place. Faith.... You are not going anywhere Christian wise without it!

    Since fellowshipping with those guys I got a couple of Associate degrees Magna Cum Laude with the Who's Who Award. And I was also at a University level programming contest and won first place. I also moved up into the Lab as a Lab Technician at my factory. The Word of Faith... I wish I would have learned it earlier!
     
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    I hold a lot of WOF doctrine. In recent years the movement had been infiltrated by some bad players with even worse doctrine, but the core doctrinal principles have much truth to them.
     
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    And... I included no TV names....
     
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    The core doctrines are right out of the occult, as thnose teaching it hold to denying jesus is God, hold that we are "gods", hold that Jesus died spiritually and had to get born again in hell, want to put us under OT promises but not those curses...

    Pretty much all messed up!
     
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    I have never heard all of that. They counseled me to find some kind of biblical hope to believe God for. It worked for me.
     
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    The Word of Faith church doctrine. This is the doctrine of the people I worked with.....

    We believe in one God manifested as: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
    We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the first begotten Son of God, was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary; was crucified and died; was buried and resurrected; ascended into heaven and is now seated at the right hand of God the Father.
    We believe the Bible in its entirety to be the inspired Word of God.
    We believe in the eternal happiness of the saved, and the eternal punishment of the lost.
    We believe in the personal salvation of believers through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
    We believe in sanctification through the Word of God and by the Holy Spirit.
    We believe in divine healing through faith in the Name of Jesus Christ.
    We believe in water baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit as distinct from the New Birth.
    We believe in the Christian’s hope; the soon-coming, personal return of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    -www.cgcchurch.com/what-we-believe/

    Nothing you quoted here!
     
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    Really? Sure about that?
     
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    I was just listing some of the main beliefs of those teaching WoF!
     
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    I was giving tose held by WoF such as a Hagin and Copeland and Hinn!
     
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    Those are the official teachings of those such as Hagin, Copeland< hinn etc!
     
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    Actually, they all teach Jesus is God.
    They dont teach man is deity. They have a strict definition of what they mean by "god" when referring to man. Hagin changed his mind about Jesus being re-born in Hell.
    They are not founders of WOF. They are modern.
     
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    They teach that Jesus was conceived in mind of God and spoken into existence, not preexisting being, and that we are just as much an Incarnation of God as Jesus was!
    And they all teach Jesus died spiritually on the Cross, went to Hell, and had to get born again, and they hold that he was first begotten of God, but that all of us "saved" shall also be as he now is!

    Charismatic mormonism!
     
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    Have you ever read...

    Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. - Exodus 20:16

    That's what you are doing you know.
     
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    I helped send a niece through Liberty University. When an individual fears God and His Word, they will not fear what men think. That was indeed Jerry Falwell! “People have asked me, ‘Franklin, do you agree with Jerry Falwell?’” said evangelist Franklin Graham who was one of the two main speakers at Falwell’s funeral. "Every time he opened the Bible, I agreed with Jerry Falwell. And you know what? He opened the Bible a lot.”

    I went to the Word of Faith church and they taught out of the KJV of the bible which sermon was good enough for me.
     
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    not true. partial truths are complete lies.
     
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    Those involved in the WoF ministry, as in the recognized teachers and leaders of this movement ALL ascribe to heresies, such as Jesus died spiritually and had to get reborn in hell, that we are all gods, that we can create and make own realities, God has to give us health and wealth etc!
     
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    Their
    "founder" was EM Kenyon big time into occult and visualization and positive confession!
     
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    They might have taught from the Kjv, but were not teaching sound doctrines, but doctrines of demons!
     
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