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Democrats showing true colors.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Reynolds, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Salty

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    Clinton and Carter were born again Presidents - Need I say more.


    When it comes to elections - I vote based on their record and platform - not necessarily their religious views.
     
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    Which means they are pro-abortion.
     
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    It means if abortion is murder then the state should be allowed to charge as such.
     
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    I am also against attempting to legislate sin away. Abortion is an extreme case I know. But women will get abortions by non-compliant doctors legal or not.
     
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    No, not necessarily (though the LP platform shows the party is trying to walk a pretty thin line). Murder and marriage are laws that the Federal government have traditionally left up to the states, and I think that is the best way to handle it in a Constitutional Republic.
    We legislate against all kinds of sins -- murder, theft, assault, and so on. These laws are best left to the states, since, imo, it is within their purview according to the Constitution of the U.S.A. From the standpoint of the state, they are not legislated against because they are sins, but because they harm and/or infringe on the rights of others. Abortion certainly does that!
     
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    I agree and would support an overturn of RvW. It looks like it could actually happen. If RvW is overturned it will go to the states. So we have the same goal, there. And if the two trump appointees are the constitutional adherents they’re reported to be they would most likely not pass a federal ban on abortion that overrules state law.

    And I also admitted abortion was an extreme example of the point I was trying to make.
     
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    OK this time you got a grifter. What was his political record? Im sure ya really researched that one didnt you?

    I gotta tell ya, all you had to do is have knowledge of this guys business practices, speak to some people who were in government positions at the time of his running a construction business, talk to the contractors, designers, architects ,engineers blah blah blah.

    My own father in law was a subcontractor for Fred Trump years ago now (FIL is German from Stuttgart ), needless to say he advised me to watch my back. I could go on & on but people who do business with him or have done business dont give him a glowing review.....then dont get me started with the Kushner gonoffs.....Its all public info though sort of.
     
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    Thats fine....then I can barge into all your conversations then. :Biggrin
     
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    But then you have a blue state/red state issue to contend with, right. There is no consistancy to monitoring & regulating.
     
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    Like all other state laws against murder, I suppose.
     
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    They will regulate it according to worldview. As my wife stated to me recently.....It's a business, a Moneymaker. You dontwant to provide abortions in Texas, perhaps they will do it in Mexico.... you dont want to do it in Pennsylvania then go to New Jersey. Again, where there is a will there is a way. So nothing will change. Only Christ (IMO) changes the heart.
     
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    All laws are legislated morality. The only question is whose morality the law is based on.
     
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    Murder violates the 14th Amendment and it becomes a federal issue.
     
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    You already do that.
     
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    Then why have any laws?
     
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    Correct
     
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    So the MD's can charge more. Why have any regulations?
     
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    Any laws about anything was the question?
     
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    Hopefully states will not legalize that kind of murder.
     
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    You know California, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, and a few others will. The key is not approaching abortion as a challenge to Roe V. Wade, but attacking it from the point of the 14th Amendment. The Supreme court could instantly make abortion illegal in all 50 states if they ruled that the 14th applied to the unborn baby.
     
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