DESPICABLE: Look what universities are now teaching about 9-11

[Happy]

“the syllabus, which includes books like “The Reluctant Fundamentalist” and “Poems from Guantanamo: Detainees Speak,” portray terrorists as “freedom fighters” driven by oppressive US foreign policies.

Even highly ranked University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has adopted the curriculum. The 9/11 seminar is taught by UNC associate English professor Neel Ahuja, who specializes in “post-colonial studies.”
In Ahuja’s twisted worldview, al-Qaida terrorists are the real victims. “Abu Zubaydah’s torture may be interpreted as simply one more example of the necropower of US imperialism, the power to coerce and kill targeted populations,” Ahuja recently wrote in an academic paper criticizing the war on terror.

He says America’s depiction of the 9/11 terrorists as “monsters” is merely an attempt to “animalize” them as insects and justify “squashing” them in “a fantasy of justice.”

http://www.allenbwest.com/ashleyedw...what-universities-are-now-teaching-about-9-11

Not news. Universities teach Opinions as Facts. And in many cases require the student to accept it as fact, to receive a "passing" grade on tests, which ultimately affects their overall transcript of final grade.
In a nutshell, it's brainwashing of the young and easily impressed minds.

 

[Rolfe]

Believe me, if there really was a plane there would have been clear photos of that plane. If not hitting the building then at least after it hit. It just left a circular hole. An impossibility.

Actually...no. 1. Parts of the plane were found. 2. The damage to the building would be consistent with a fuselage roughly 12ft wide X 14ft tall. The hole was 18 ft in diameter if I remember correctly. 3. There is also security camera photos showing what appears to be an aircraft the size of a B757 shortly before impact.

A plane did it.

 

[Rolfe]

Looks like CTB covered my point. And with photos...

 

[Crabtownboy]

Here is another video. At second * you can see it entering the view.

 

[Happy]

Truth ~ Foreigners were allowed entrance into the USA.
Question ~ For what purpose were they allowed entrance?
Question ~ Did they arrive in the US on a work, student, diplomatic, or other visa?
Question ~ Were they participating in what their VISA provided?
Question ~ Were they here on an expired VISA?

After the bombing ~ what was reported ABOUT THEM?
Visa background check?
Working, Students participating in University?
Suspicious activity?

It IS the (FED) governments obligation, to admit or deny entrance into the US.
It IS the (FED) governments obligation, to keep track of foreigners in the US.
It IS the (FED) governments obligation, to deny and deport those in violation of conditions of their entry, and anyone of illegal activity.

What is seemingly a major issue in government affairs, is their willingness to issue VISA'S without viable background knowledge ON the applicant or an effective means in place to track and keep tabs on those they allow entrance and deport those who violate the conditions and deny them reentry.

Trump spoke to ^^ THAT issue, desiring to put a stay on foreign entries so discussions could take place to address the half-arsed dilemma. Handing out Visas like candy, without force and effect to oversee the recipients is NOT in the best interest for the common good of all in the US.

 

[Yeshua1]

“the syllabus, which includes books like “The Reluctant Fundamentalist” and “Poems from Guantanamo: Detainees Speak,” portray terrorists as “freedom fighters” driven by oppressive US foreign policies.

Even highly ranked University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has adopted the curriculum. The 9/11 seminar is taught by UNC associate English professor Neel Ahuja, who specializes in “post-colonial studies.”
In Ahuja’s twisted worldview, al-Qaida terrorists are the real victims. “Abu Zubaydah’s torture may be interpreted as simply one more example of the necropower of US imperialism, the power to coerce and kill targeted populations,” Ahuja recently wrote in an academic paper criticizing the war on terror.

He says America’s depiction of the 9/11 terrorists as “monsters” is merely an attempt to “animalize” them as insects and justify “squashing” them in “a fantasy of justice.”

http://www.allenbwest.com/ashleyedw...what-universities-are-now-teaching-about-9-11

Guess behanding and burning alive Christians/Jews are now acceptable, as lomg as freedom fighters?

 

[asterisktom]

I don't know where your circular hole idea comes from. The photos of the Pentagon certainly do not show a circular hole.

Here is a photo of the plane just before it hit the Pentagon.

Here are pieces of the plane after hitting the Pentagon.

Here is a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. You have to watch carefully as the plane is visible for no more than a tenth of a second.

 

[asterisktom]

It is after midnight here. I will reply to this post also when I get to my day room where my computer is. For now I,will just add a link. The photo you showed was after the initial holes were made.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_90.htm

 

[Yeshua1]

How do we pursue this in a Christian, baptist forum?

Who are the "WE" who have the evidence? We, the general public, have all seen the official videos & photos.

We haven't seen the video of a jet airliner hitting the Pentagon, making a neat round hole in the building. We haven't seen the debris of wings, engines & tail that were way beyond the hole.

We did see videos of immediate celebrations by Arabs & Israelis immediately after the twin towers were struck, but that doesn't provide evidence of guilt.

We heard the immediate attribution to Islamic terrorists - the axis of evil - & the declaration of a crusade against Al Qaeda.

"We" don't need further evidence, "we" know who did it. And, of course, getting someone, anyone, for the crime is more important than getting the right perpetrator. We know that from murder mysteries like "Murder she wrote."

And Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen ..... pay the price.
Also the Christians in those lands pay the price because of "Christian" America is destroying the countries where they live .....

We have a Gospel of peace with God through the Lord Jesus Christ.

So you would deny that Isis has behanded and burned alive and crucified their enemies, basically any who were not extreme muslims?

 

[Crabtownboy]

It is after midnight here. I will reply to this post also when I get to my day room where my computer is. For now I,will just add a link. The photo you showed was after the initial holes were made.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_90.htm

No, you are wrong. Also you remember the twin towers did not fall immediately upon being hit. Your photo proves absolutely nothing. The resulting fire causes additional damage.

On the bodies, not all the killed were on the plane. Those folk were in the center of a huge, very hot fireball. I doubt there was anything left of them to allow any identification, DNA or otherwise. That people were in the Pentagon and killed certainly could have been identified through DNA as well as other ways.

I do not know where your "round hole" photo comes from. The material looks wrong to be the Pentagon. There walls are not thick enough and there is no rebar showing. I think your photo is from another location.

 

[Yeshua1]

No, you are wrong. Also you remember the twin towers did not fall immediately upon being hit. Your photo proves absolutely nothing. The resulting fire causes additional damage.

On the bodies, not all the killed were on the plane. Those folk were in the center of a huge, very hot fireball. I doubt there was anything left of them to allow any identification, DNA or otherwise. That people were in the Pentagon and killed certainly could have been identified through DNA as well as other ways.

I do not know where your "round hole" photo comes from. The material looks wrong to be the Pentagon. There walls are not thick enough and there is no rebar showing. I think your photo is from another location.

So the USA staged all of this, killed own citizens?

 

[InTheLight]

Yes, you can learn a lot in a few weeks of flight school. Training on a small plane is just like those big ones. You also learn that critical skill of getting your plane to bypass those bothersome laws of physics.

The two hijackers that piloted the planes into the WTC had extensive training on jumbo jet flight simulators. The other two hijackers on the other two planes were already pilots.

 

[Crabtownboy]

So the USA staged all of this, killed own citizens?

Where did that ridiculous statement come from?

 

[Yeshua1]

Where did that ridiculous statement come from?

Well. some believe that, just look at the media!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Well. some believe that, just look at the media!

Look around long enough and you can find people gullible enough to believe anything.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Look around long enough and you can find people gullible enough to believe anything. The anti-government people will believe any outlandish negative idea anyone dreams up.

 

[asterisktom]

No, you are wrong. Also you remember the twin towers did not fall immediately upon being hit. Your photo proves absolutely nothing. The resulting fire causes additional damage.

On the bodies, not all the killed were on the plane. Those folk were in the center of a huge, very hot fireball. I doubt there was anything left of them to allow any identification, DNA or otherwise. That people were in the Pentagon and killed certainly could have been identified through DNA as well as other ways.

I do not know where your "round hole" photo comes from. The material looks wrong to be the Pentagon. There walls are not thick enough and there is no rebar showing. I think your photo is from another location.

The fact that you didn't recognize the round hole as coming from the Pentagon shows me that you didn't really do much research. That photo has been used a lot in reporting on the Pentagon bombing, although it is now not as easy to find as in earlier years. The photo you showed was after the collapse of that whole section. Please, do some more research.

In my post I wasn't even dealing with the WTC 1 or 2, just 7. I ask again: How did that fall down? So perfectly "reminiscent of a controlled demolition" as Dan Rather reported. I see that his video coverage of that event is also getting harder to find.

 

[asterisktom]

If the plane did not actually hit the Pentagon or the WTC (take your pic) then what happened to those people?

Do truthers really believe the 9/11 commission, the CIA, FBI, FAA, FEMA, The National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, (and) the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.were all in on the conspiracy?

As someone else (on the internet has asked) If the Bush Administration was actually behind 9/11, how do you explain the fact that they didn't fake discovering weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? After all, if they were so corrupt that they'd be willing to kill 3000 Americans, surely they wouldn't have any qualms about planting a few WMDs in Iraq.?

If the Bush Administration was really behind 9/11, then surely the Obama Administration must be aware of it by now and they'd have every incentive to reveal it in order to damage the Republican Party. Why haven't they done it? Are they in on it, too?

Do you nontruthers really believe a government could never have devious people in it who could infiltrate and take power from within? Yes, those groups you mentioned were either in on it or were cowed into silence. NIST, for one, intitially wouldn't even touch the issue of WTC7. Later they issued a vague, inconclusive response.

The fact that the CIA and groups like were in on it is not at all hard to believe. Have you ever read up on the history of their earlier doings?

If you have any problems with my credibility how about Raymond McGovern, former CIA chairman. He said this:

""I think at simplest terms, there's a cover-up. The 9/11 report is a joke. The question is: What's being covered up? Is it gross malfeasance, gross negligence? Now there are a whole bunch of unanswered questions. And the reason they're unanswered is because this administration will not answer the questions. This is the bottom line for me; just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did in exploiting 9/11. The cynical way in which he played on our trauma, used it to justify attacking, making a war of aggression on a country that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11."

You nontruthers need to dig a little deeper.

That hole in the Pentagon was not just a missile hole. It is a rabbit hole. And who knows how deep it goes?

 

[asterisktom]

If the Bush Administration was really behind 9/11, then surely the Obama Administration must be aware of it by now and they'd have every incentive to reveal it in order to damage the Republican Party. Why haven't they done it? Are they in on it, too?

Do you really believe that there is that great of a difference between those two parties - or those two presidents? They both continued the war. The real power is not with them.

 

[asterisktom]

I don't know where your circular hole idea comes from. The photos of the Pentagon certainly do not show a circular hole.

Here is a photo of the plane just before it hit the Pentagon.

Here are pieces of the plane after hitting the Pentagon.

Here is a video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. You have to watch carefully as the plane is visible for no more than a tenth of a second.

The only thing correct above is your comment is that you have to watch carefully. And be willing to believe that this is a plane you are seeing.

Once again: In the nerve-center (Pentagon) of the greatest technological and military power in the world an astonishing attack happens - and we have no actual clear footage of the event. Just one blurry tenth of a second clip that we have to "watch c refully" for.

The other items I have answered elsewhere.