Yes, and no, Wopik, because the CHURCH by then already had departed from the TRUTH and started to serve strange gods, clearly seen in Justin's pleas for Sunday worship - last half of the first century.
The change from Sabbath to Sunday BEGAN in the Church, and BEGAN, by manipulating the SCRIPTURES, and BEGAN, by 'changing times and law' in changing the day upon which Christ rose from the dead from the Sabbath to Sunday.
If only this of all my posts, keep it it safe and handy, for it explains what is important, FULLY.
Did Jesus do away with the Sabbath?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Claudia_T, May 10, 2006.
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Gerhard Ebersoehn Active MemberSite Supporter
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Claudia,
If you're still on line NOW, why have you stopped answering my DIRECT references to Scripture in every of the current threads we're on? -
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... wopik ... last half of the SECOND century ... of course, sorry!
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During the time of the first advent the indigenous people of the Middle East pronounce the name “Ye’ shua” so according to your legalism they aren’t going to get to heaven; that’s legalism.
Your’s is a great deal of the pot calling the kettle black.
Moreover, you owe me an apology for bearing false witness against me by writing that I don’t believe in the Divinity of Yahshua, the only begotten Son of the Father. Since I wholeheartedly believe in the Divinity of Yahshua then you bore false witness and you need to repent.
This is a serious offence and I will not let it go because it reflects upon my reputation and character. I will not allow individuals to falsely accuse me of such notions and I will bring this to the attention of the moderators if you don’t retract your false accusation.
Further, I never made any statement that could be construed that I believe in the works of the law above grace. Your zealousness does not give you license to write things that are not true about people you know little about, Sir.
In Yahshua
Michael -
I didnt even think there was an ARTICLE there?
It is a line of dates and records about people throughout the centuries who have kept the Sabbath -
I have lost track of everything. You could always just start up a new thread altogether about the Sabbath and ask me whatever you want and I will answer. As long as I can understand what you are trying to say, at least.
Claudia -
Gerhard Ebersoehn Active MemberSite Supporter
During the time of the first advent the indigenous people of the Middle East pronounce the name “Ye’ shua” so according to your legalism they aren’t going to get to heaven; that’s legalism.
Your’s is a great deal of the pot calling the kettle black.
Moreover, you owe me an apology for bearing false witness against me by writing that I don’t believe in the Divinity of Yahshua, the only begotten Son of the Father. Since I wholeheartedly believe in the Divinity of Yahshua then you bore false witness and you need to repent.
This is a serious offence and I will not let it go because it reflects upon my reputation and character. I will not allow individuals to falsely accuse me of such notions and I will bring this to the attention of the moderators if you don’t retract your false accusation.
Further, I never made any statement that could be construed that I believe in the works of the law above grace. Your zealousness does not give you license to write things that are not true about people you know little about, Sir.
In Yahshua
Michael </font>[/QUOTE]My sincerest apologies and asking for forgiveness, unconditionally!
May I explain: There was a time in my life a very dear friend of mine with the most amazing knowledge of the Scriptures - a rolemodel and hero to me - succeeded to bring me into some short-lived enthusiasm for the 'Name'-movement here in SA. Strange, I should have known better, because this wonderful man never believed otherwise than Christ the LORD and God of his life! Nevertheless, he associated with this 'Name'-movement that thoroughly was Unitarian, and I have scarcely known anyone else of them who was not Unitarian. So I -wrongly it now seems- came to associated Unitarianism with people who use the transcribed Hebrew Names of God.
While I was under the spell of this enthusiasm I never fellt comfortable or free in worship, and had to strain at every reference to God or mention of 'The Name', until eventually I was relieved of it. You cannot imagine the freedom and calm that resulted.
So I again ask your pardon, and you are able to serve and worship our Lord Jesus like one saved by him from every fetter, may God be with you therein.
Yet I stand on the principle that it is NO TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW to use the Name of the LORD GOD and JESUS CHRIST in the accepted, and usual way or pronunciation or spelling of it in any language, for that is or would be crass legalism. -
Michael
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