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Divorce before conversion able to marry

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1689Dave

1689Dave

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atpollard said:
Define "repent".

“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means” - Inigo Montoya
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41.52 μετανοέω; μετάνοια, ας f: to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’5

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 509). New York: United Bible Societies.
 
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1689Dave said:
41.52 μετανοέω; μετάνοια, ας f: to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’5

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 509). New York: United Bible Societies.
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Cannot a Cjristian changed his mind on his divorce, now knowing was wrong and sinful, confess that to God, and then stay remarried?
 
1689Dave

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Yeshua1 said:
So you would have another family wreaked?
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“If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)
 
atpollard

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1689Dave said:
41.52 μετανοέω; μετάνοια, ας f: to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’5

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 509). New York: United Bible Societies.
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Why does "repenting" require a new Christian with his second wife and two young children by his new wife to abandon his also just saved wife and reconcile with his heroin addict first wife to be "forgiven" by God of the sin of Adultery.

Why can he not "change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness" by confessing his past failures to God, turning over his present life and marriage to God, trusting the blood of Jesus to wash away his sins, and striving to be a godly husband and father ... grateful for this second chance that he has been given and determined to make it work?

This is not just a wild example, this is a family that I know. Your advice for them sucks and I would break fellowship before I would inflict it on a real family.
 
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atpollard said:
Why does "repenting" require a new Christian with his second wife and two young children by his new wife to abandon his also just saved wife and reconcile with his heroin addict first wife to be "forgiven" by God of the sin of Adultery.

Why can he not "change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness" by confessing his past failures to God, turning over his present life and marriage to God, trusting the blood of Jesus to wash away his sins, and striving to be a godly husband and father ... grateful for this second chance that he has been given and determined to make it work?

This is not just a wild example, this is a family that I know. Your advice for them sucks and I would break fellowship before I would inflict it on a real family.
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Would jesus want us to commit more sin in order to undo a prior sin? Woudl he not instead wnat us to trust in the blood of Jesus to cleanse and restoreus? King David did big2 sins, adultery and murder, did God retore and forgive him or not?
 
atpollard

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1689Dave said:
You cannot live in adultery unrepented of and go to heaven. Adulterers go to hell. That is what Scripture teaches.
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Actually, what it says is ...

  • [1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NASB] 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor [the] covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
So the list of people who will not go to heaven is a lot longer than just "adulterers":
  1. fornicators
  2. idolaters
  3. adulterers
  4. effeminate
  5. homosexuals
  6. thieves
  7. covetous
  8. drunkards
  9. revilers
  10. swindlers
So what (according to Dave) do each of the others need to do as restitution to stop being in their state of sin. Can an "idolater" take back every prayer and re-offer it to God? Thieves and Swindlers should be required to repay the Legal 5 times what was stolen to all of their victims or else they are continuing in their state as Thieves and Swindlers, right?

Fortunately for the rest of us, we have verse 11: "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified". Look at that ... ALL of the sins on that big long list were "washed", "sanctified" and "justified" by Jesus.

So tell me again why ADULTERY was not forgiven when clearly all of the other sins in the same list were.

PS: We better "butch up" so our repentance can count. I wonder how effeminate is too effeminate to accept repentance. Is Allan Alda good enough, or do we need to be like Charles Bronson?
 
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