In all that they affirm and state, or is it just in the sreas of theology, as there are errors regarding dsay history and in stories of the OT especially?
Do you believe in the scriptures being Infallable?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Sep 4, 2016.
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Jordan Kurecki Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I'd be wondering if anyone on this board believes any text in any language is infallible...
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Every Baptist on the BB believes the bible is the inspired, infallible, word of God. Be careful of making false accusations against other BB members.
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Jordan Kurecki Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Perhaps you could tell me what Bible text
In any language you believe is infallible? What text do you believe is without any error or mistakes and that has entire exemption from errors? -
Just asking, as there seems to be a big debate in Evangelcial circles not between those holding to limited and compared to full views on this subkect! -
Do you believe in the scriptures being Infallible?
Yes.
But not your spelling
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Every bible text and competent translation teaches us that the History of the bible is infallible history, the promises of the bible are infallible promises, and the prophecy of the bible is infallible prophecy.
Your problem is that you believed the lies your pastor told you, that the KJV is the only inspired, perfect translation of the bible. Unfortunately your pastor has no evidence to support his lie.
God's word, the bible, tells us the truth of any matter is established on the testimony of two or three others. Please post two or three facts, from the bible, that prove the KJV is the only infallible English translation.
And Jordan, you claim to be a "bible believer" but in reality you don't believe the bible. Any bible. You even deny the KJV.
The bible says that any bible that is able to make you wise unto salvation is the inspired scripture. The difference between you and me is that I believe what the bible says and you deny what the bible says.
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. -
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We have accepted teachers/commentators who seem to be so willing to sacrifice the Bible as being all true in order to appease current understanding and cultural norms... -
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One can hold to a preferred view regarding with textual basis is closest to the originals, and which translation is closest to those, but not be a KJVO, nor CT/MT/TR only either! -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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For instance, I have noticed in the past couple years that my study habits have deteriorated and I am starting to lose the ability to focus on a subject to exegete every nuance of meaning. So, in my old age I have gone back to school! I am presently enrolled in three classes at Dallas Theological Seminary. Genesis. John. And a refresher in Bible Hermeneutics.
I was delighted to discover the Professor teaching Genesis, Dr. James Allman, Professor of Old Testament Studies and Hebrew at DTS, believes the same as I do about Genesis.
And that is that verse 1 of chapter 1 is a title giving a summary of the entire event, and verse 2 is the first verse of the actual narrative expressing the condition of the earth at the time the narrative begins, with verse 3 beginning to tell the story.
It is imperative for any man, to be a teacher of the bible, to know the languages the bible was inspired in. In this case, Hebrew. Without a knowledge of the Hebrew language the teacher (so-called) would not know that verse two starts with a disjunctive clause which means that verse 2 is not an outgrowth of verse 1, either chronologically or logically. This is a standard methodology of Hebrew when recounting a narrative. First a summary (verse 1) followed by a statement of conditions at the beginning of the narrative (verse 2) then the narrative itself (verses 3 and following).
But some Christians (especially of the KJVO variety) would accuse me of apostasy for not holding to their (incorrect) understanding of Genesis 1. And that flawed understanding is based on their inability to properly exegete the Hebrew text.
So, which understanding is "all truth?" What the Hebrew actually says, or what a person thinks it says because of the necessity of studying only the English translation because of their lack of academic ability to exegete the Hebrew?
Unfortunately, in today's "my way or the highway" methodology "all true" has become a matter of ill-informed opinion rather than a solid understanding of the exegetical truth of the passage.
See the problem? :)
By the way. Good discussion. Thanks for jumping in. This is the type of discussion that makes the Baptist Board so valuable. :) -
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SovereignGrace Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
There is an old saying that states 'a chain is only as strong as its weakest link'. Now, carry that statement over into this conversation. If I believe one verse, even one teeny tiny verse, is fallible, then how can I believe the rest? Which other biblical accounts such as the gospel(crucifixion, burial and resurrection), Noah's ark, David killing Goliath, Saul's seeing the bright Light, John the Baptist coming in the flesh, would then also be compromised?
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The absurdity of liberals.
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