Wait what? No such thing as passively receiving a gift. I gave my son a bday gift and he reached out and took it and made it his. In no way can it be considered that he also took part in the giving of that gift. It is an absurd idea.
I have yet to find a single particular/ reformed/ calvinist etc who can actually answer that question.
“I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.[John 17:6-9]
Now, if God loved the world, meaning everybody from all times, then why does the Christ not pray for the world in the above passage?
If God loves the world, and the world means everybody w/o exception, then why is the Christ not praying for those very ppl the Father loves? You have the triune God at odds with Each Other.
Paul also said we are to consider ourselves dead to sin. If dead meant a corps then that would mean we are unable to sin.
Dead in no way mean unable to respond it means separated in relationship. Jesus told the church of Sardis that they were dead and commanded them to wake up.
Scripture shows over and over again that man is able and responsible to repent and believe.
“I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.[John 17:6-9]
Now, if God loved the world, meaning everybody from all times, then why does the Christ not pray for the world in the above passage?
If God loves the world, and the world means everybody w/o exception, then why is the Christ not praying for those very ppl the Father loves? You have the triune God at odds with Each Other.