As being valid and teaching the Gospel?
Does RCC Recognise Orthodox/Protestant Churches?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by DaChaser1, Mar 2, 2012.
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Last I heard the RCC considers orthodox protestant churches as "separated brothers." The Christian Reformed Church just signed a truce with the RCC.
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Here is the section of the Catechism of the RCC dealing with protestants, orthodox and other historical Christian schisms. There are additional ecumenical documents specifically dealing with the Orthodox and Lutherans.
Catechism of the Catholic Church : Paragraph 3. THE CHURCH IS ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC
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Concerning Orthodox churches, the statement said they are valid churches but defective because they do not recognize the successor to Peter as their visible head.
Concerning Protestant churches, the statement called them ecclesial communities but not valid churches because their orders are either defective or nonexistent. This in turn means they cannot have a valid Eucharist which is the central element of any true church.
The whole statement is a short easy read and it may be found here: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...ith_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html -
Some CRC classis (jurisdictions) accept female preachers, some don't.
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sorry but I have a bad taste in my mouth for any protestant church that cuddles up to the RCC ...especially the reformed ones. -
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The Catholic Church considers itself to be the same Church Jesus established through his apostles. As far as christian churches go they have differing views of each churches.
The Orthodox/Coptic Churches they view in Schism from the one true church. These hold to the deposit of faith and are mostly in line with Catholic Church teaching.
As far as the Protestant Churches they consider them to teach certain Heresies. However, where their teaching is in line with Catholic Teaching such as Trinitarian view of God and the hypostatic union, virgin birth, death, and bodily resurrection the Catholic Church considers them to be in union with the one church. Because on these items they are actually carring on the deposit of faith left by the Apostles where they are in line with Catholic Teaching. And thus they are inheritors of the faith passed down by the Catholic Church. Thus protestants are truelly Christian unless they depart from the basics of faith of which some I already mentioned. The Catholic Church does not hold that modern protestants hold the guilt of their founders who grow up in these traditions but contends that the reformers sinned against God by seperating themselves from the one true chruch and that they will be held accountable. As for Chrisitans in these faith traditions in modern times the Catholic Church sees as true Christians though not in full communion with the Catholic Church.
As for marriage. Catholics believe you can marry a non-Catholic from any faith background as long as the non Catholic partner agrees to be open to having children and raising them in the Catholic faith. Though this is not encouraged it is permitted. -
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Thinkingstuff Active Member
What must you believe to be saved? Depends on your particular cirucumstance and Catholics don't believe in Judging someone else's eternity. However, it is generally held that to be a real Christian you must believe in these things:
God is a Trinity
Jesus is a hypostatic union of Divinity and Humanity (perfectly both)
That he became incarnate through the virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit and was born while she was yet a virgin
That Jesus suffered under Pontius Pilate
He was crucified for our sins
that he truelly died
that on the third day rose again (under his own power) from the dead
That he ascended into heaven and is currently seated at the right hand of the father
that he will surely come again to judge the living and the dead
that the Holy Spirit is a part of that Trinity God head (not some sort of force) as his own person
that there is a universality of believers
That true believers should be in communion with each other
that based on Jesus' work we are truelly forgiven by God and made right in his sight
that there will be a bodily ressurrection for us
and that there is life ever lasting
this is the fundamentals or the basic things of Christian belief. Any departure from these basic things is to fall into serious heresy and excludes one from Christianity. -
>Originally Posted by DaChaser1
>How can the RCC recognize at all though ANY protestant church, since trent made it clear that denial of the truths such as papacy/salvation/baptism/Eucherist means that onw would be an Apostate!
Catholic doctrine, like Bible covenants and the US Constitution, is cumulative. The entire corpus must be considered thus your argument is null and void. -
Friends of mine have been told by former priests that since they were rebapised into a different church. that would mean were lost, unsaved, per RCC teaching!
As by recanting on RCC theology, shut off saving grace! -
the Gospel itself is main thing, and the RCC does NOT teach the Biblical One! -
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However, in the first case if the person repents then they are forgiven.
Ie the more you know the more accountable you are.
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