Here's a tweet from Donald Trump earlier this morning.
And here is the result of the Brexit vote in Scotland:
Donald Trump Foreign Policy Genius
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by InTheLight, Jun 24, 2016.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
Yeup, like mamy Americans he confuses Scotland with England. Then there are others who confuse Cornwall with the barbarians to the North.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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But isn't Scotland part of the UK?
and if so, if the UK left the EU, then didnt Scotland leave the EU
Trump was in Scotland - thus mentioning that country.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Then again Trump saw thousands of Muslims cheering on rooftops on 9/11.. -
Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
Yes, take a look at the map. Scotland voted 62% Remain. It's like blaming Minnesota for Reagen
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OnlyaSinner Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Go easy on Trump...he has a good brain.
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Martin Marprelate Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
At some point the UK will give notice to quit to the E.U. There will then be 2 years of divorce proceedings before we finally get our country back. -
No, what you have here is going to be a second Scottish independence vote and this time it will most likely succeed.
And Scotland did vote heavily in favor of staying in the EU but that area has always been pro-government and pro-union and they haven't felt the brunt of being stuck in the EU - 8k/250k "refugees" live in Scotland. Donald Trump has to be able to analyze election results, he was speaking for the UK in general.
But what it is is a big foreign policy failure for Obama, who went over there to "warn" them not to leave the EU. This was a British (and soon to be Scottish) issue that Trump and Clinton should've stayed out of IMO . -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Maybe Trump should have crossed the border into England before making his comments. Big deal.
The Scots are threatening to leave UK and join the European Union on their own. Probably the English will say Farewell. Best of luck.
"Income taxpayers in the rest of the UK will continue to subsidize Scotland by billions of pounds every year even after the Scottish Parliament wins control of the levy, a major new report published today has concluded." LINK -
Will the English really say "Be on you way; best of luck"? Scotland has been part of the realm since 1707 (longer if you count the shared throne since 1603), much longer than any American state has been part of the American union. Technically, the current royal house is descended from the Scottish Stuart dynasty. It may be that England-Wales-Northern Ireland will have no choice but to let Scotland go, but I don't think it will be easy on many levels. And is it possible that Northern Ireland — which voted to remain — might finally reach an arrangement with the Republic of Ireland, which is a member of the EU?
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
London pays the welfare checks given to the Scots. The Scots would have to get a job if they left the UK.
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'Good riddance! QUENTIN LETTS is fed up with ungrateful Scots gorging on our money. He says give them independence...
'My grandfathers fought in the two World Wars. My family has long been royalist. With Scottish, Anglo-Irish and Canadian blood in my veins, I should be a grandchild of Empire, unstinting in my support for a union which has served us for more than 300 years.
But I simply can’t get worked up about it. I have tried to hurl myself into a unionist frenzy. Nothing happened. My heart remained as cold as a car battery on a January morning.
We English have grown tired of being hated, of being blamed for everything, of being forever the indulgent paymaster and scorned cousin.'
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There is that. There is a certain resentment of the English that every other nation within the union has a discrete parliament except the English, who are subject to the whims of the other nationalities.
Maybe the English are ready to give up on the multinational state that is the United Kingdom. If so, they should be prepared to give up both Scotland and Northern Ireland and make Parliament strictly an English affair. I don't think they've thought through the issue, though. England-Wales will, though a sizable power, will be a truncated state (borders it has not considered until now) and unable to rely upon many advantages it has grown accustomed to. Maybe that's what they want: the end of Great Britain and the ascendancy of England. But maybe Wales will want out too when it sees where everyone else is going. -
As to "ungrateful Scots": It has often been an unhappy union, even though the Scottish Enlightenment pulled England into world supremacy. Yes, the Scots are recalcitrant, but that's to be expected. They're Scots. If the English didn't want the Scots, they should have left them alone.
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All in all, some folks are treating Brexit as if it's not important. It is. The firmest ally of the United States has been the UK. Can we count upon the constituent parts?
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