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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Jul 2, 2015.

  1. church mouse guy

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    Russians out of Ukraine and Russians stop probing American military. Down with Putin.
     
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    Patton was murdered by the Russians so you can stop with the Nazi stuff. Russia is confronting the US military. Putin is a murderer, not that murderers are Nazis.
     
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    Don't care for the taste of your own medicine, eh?

    You're the one spreading the national socialist message. I'm just pointing it out.

    You could be a spokesperson for Svoboda you have their nationalist propaganda down pat.

    At any rate CMG I agree that Russia has been very provocative in placing their country so close to NATO bases. What nerve! How dare they?


    Reply to a Reader’s Complaint about Anti-American Pro-Russian Bias

    I recently received a sharp complaint from a reader about an assumed anti-American pro-Russian bias in my writings. The complaint gives a very good opportunity to address questions on the minds of many in the West confused by an extremely biased pro-Washington, anti-Russian bias in mainstream media coverage of Ukraine and Russia as the new demon to be fought.

    Here is my translation from the German of the gist of the complaint:

    Continue . . . http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/30/reply-to-a-reader-s-complaint-about-anti-american-pro-russian-bias/
     
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    Russians live under the iron fist of Putin's despotism, allowing Putin and his Russian followers to steal and murder at will. Russians should leave the Ukraine alone--they have murdered enough there and Russians should leave the US military alone.
     
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    So, Washington DC and the global bankers and corporations (oligarchs) that control it can do evil continually, meddle in the affairs of everyone, steal and murder at will, fund and arm murderers and use them as proxy regime change armies because they tell us the Russians or whoever else they want to "divide and conquer" are evil and have an evil leader?

    That's about the stupidest rationale for being complicit with evil I've ever heard CMG. Surely you can come up something better than that.

    I don't know where you neocons come up with the idea that in order to be a "good American" we have to overlook all the evil done in our name or for "freedom and democracy" because our "enemies" are evil. I don't believe this idea comes from the bible so where does it come from?

    My best guess is Woodrow "make the world safe democracy" Wilson, not the bible.

    According to you Washington DC has the right to intervene in the affairs of every nation on earth, including but not limited to funding and arming radical Islamist's and ultra nationalist proxy regime change armies to violently overthrow other governments even those democratically elected, set up military bases and missile batteries on another nation's borders, attempt to isolate them from trading or doing business with others and threaten them with destruction if they don't bow down to Washington and the "international community's" demands and pay tribute to the global bankers and let the transnational corporations move in and "privatize" their resources and assets.

    And all of this evil they have been doing and continue to do is justified because Washington and the transnational corporations who own and control the mass media tell us there is evil in the world?

    I just don't see how doing evil continually can be justified because there is evil in the world.

    Where does this idea come from?
     
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    Perfect Gif for this thread:

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    Instead of making fun us why don't you tell us why the USA and the "international community" is allowed to do the same things we condemn others for?

    How is it that the USA and the "international community" can violate/ignore the same law it tries to enforce on others?

    How is it that the USA can instigate a violent overthrow of an elected government on Russia's border and then claim the Russians are acting "aggressively" if they do anything to protect their own interests?
     
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    The Russian people have no business in Ukraine.
     
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    Russian people, or the Russian Government? There is a difference.
     
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    Good question. I'm going to add to it.

    The Russian people, the Russian government or the ethnic Russian Ukrainians?

    There is a difference.

    The ethnic Russian Ukrainians whatever else the their culture or language may be they are Ukrainians. Do they have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    Putin has almost total support--that has already been established in this thread--so the Russian people are complicit in this invasion and they know that dead bodies are returning home. Russians have no business in the Ukraine.
     
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    That doesn't answer the question. Maybe the question was to long and complex.

    I'll try to make it simpler . . . do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    Don't bother to try and change the subject, which you have been trying to do for eight pages.

    Russians do not belong in Ukraine. Do Russians ever tire of murdering Ukraine? First Stalin, now Putin.
     
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    In other words you're afraid to answer a simple question.

    That's what I figured.
     
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    Putin needs to get his living soldiers out of Ukraine and not just his dead ones.
     
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    Answer the question, do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    Is that another Stalinist question? Putin has murdered enough people that there is room for Russians in Russia. Russians need to get out of the Ukraine.
     
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    You said all that already. Now answer the question. Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?

    What are you so afraid of? It's just a question. A simple one at that.
     
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    No, you cannot change the subject because you are denying that there are any Russian soldiers in Ukraine because you support the bloody Putin.

    Ukraine has had enough of Russia. The whole world remembers the atrocities of the Russians--the words "crimes against humanity" are inadequate to describe the murders of the Russians, who murdered more than the Germans and Japanese and Italians combined.
     
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