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  1. poncho

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    Translated; "You are correct Poncho the thought of answering your simple question scares the daylights out of me so I'm just going to continue posting the same thing over and over and over to avoid answering it until you stop asking."

    CMG, Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    CMG, do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    American comedian Seth Meyer noted that 64% of Americans cannot find Ukraine on a map and added that Putin says that soon no one will be able to find Ukraine on a map.
     
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    CMG, do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    U.S. Propaganda: It’s Not Just False, but Absurd.

    It’s so ridiculous, no intelligent and informed person would give it any serious consideration whatsoever. It insults the public’s intelligence.

    Here’s a typical example of the ridiculousness of U.S. propaganda: On July 16th, the U.S. State Department issued a “Ukraine Travel Warning.” It says: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/

    A few of CMG's favorite publications . . . http://www.rferl.org/media/photogallery/putin-on-cover-pages/25473951.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw

    In fact, almost immediately after Yatsenyuk became the leader of Ukraine, he sacked the existing three Deputy Defense Ministers, on March 5th, and replaced them with three rabidly anti-Russian neo-Nazis, who were committed to this bombing-policy. The person who was made the Minister of Defense, Mikhail Koval, has announced his intention to ethnically cleanse from southeastern Ukraine the “subhumans” who voted for Yanukovych, who will “be resettled in other regions,” meaning either Russia (if Russia accepts these Ukrainian refugees) or else concentration-camps inside Ukraine (and then perhaps death). “There will be a thorough filtration of people.” Their property will be confiscated, and “Land parcels will be given out for free to the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and other military formations, as well as to the employees of Interior Ministry and the Security Service of Ukraine that are defending territorial integrity and sovereignty of the country in eastern and southeastern regions of Ukraine.” That’s the euphemism for the ethnic cleansing, and mass-theft. In other words, Obama’s rulers of Ukraine are offering their soldiers the opportunity to grab legally the property of their victims. Ukraine doesn’t have the money to pay for all the soldiers that are needed to do this ethnic cleansing; so, they’re being promised war-booty, instead. Sort of like paying them by tips: but with the bigger tips going to the killers with the most (or biggest) scalps.

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/ukraine-international-war-criminal-obama-putin-2.html

    CMG, do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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  6. church mouse guy

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    Ghost of Stalin. Russians cannot understand that Stalin starved so many of them to death that the hatred of Russia lingers on in the Ukraine.

    "Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule. As a result, an estimated 7,000,000 persons perished in this farming area, known as the breadbasket of Europe, with the people deprived of the food they had grown with their own hands."

    http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

    Victims of genocide usually adore their oppressors, don't they?

    I am not saying that Putin has not done some great things for Russia. Putin helped Russia develop the world's largest microprocessor. Also, Putin has kept the price of lard from rising so that the Russian people can have some lard to put on their bread for Sunday lunch.
     
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    You aren't saying whether or not ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine either.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    Are you talking about in prisons or in cemeteries? Haven't Russians done enough to the Ukraine, starving 700,000 in an act of genocide?

    If the Russians keep up their wars of aggression, the price of lard will rise and they won't have lard to put on their bread for Sunday lunch. Also, they will not be able to afford to keep building the world's largest microprocessor.
     
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    I'm not asking you about Russians. I'm asking you about Ukrainians.

    Ethnic Russian Ukrainians that have been born and raised in Ukraine. In other words Ukrainian citizens that speak Russian. But you know that. Stop playing stupid and answer the question.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine?
     
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    That doesn't answer the question. It's a very simple question that only requires a very simple answer.

    Quit acting like a scared little school girl and answer the question.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine? Yes or no?
     
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    Poncho, you are the master of insults so I know that your posts are not a serious discussion.

    Many countries hate the Russians and none with more reason than the Ukraine where millions were starved to death by the Russians and now it is clear that Putin also is willing to commit genocide in the Ukraine again.

    The Russians are in the Ukraine only to steal and murder and everyone knows it.

    One day Russians will have to spend so much money to destroy the Ukraine that they will not be able to afford lard to put on their bread for their Sunday lunches.

    Russian had better watch out because it the USA ever elects a human being as President again, the American President just might tell the entire world about the millions of people that Russia has murdered in the Ukraine.

    Stalin and the Russians in the Ukraine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dn-ZhWBWfs
     
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    You've said this a dozen times already.

    Now answer the question.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine? Yes or no?
     
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    C'mon don't be scared of a little question. Man up answer it. Everyone knows now that you've done your best to talk your way around it. You gave it your best shot. Now show some intestinal fortitude and answer it.


    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine? Yes or no?
     
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    Really, Poncho. You have been given pictures and videos and statements of Russian troops in Ukraine and video of Russian genocide in the Ukraine and you ask if Russians can be in the Ukraine. They are already there and pointing guns. Russians are hated in the Ukraine. Putin is a psychopathic murderer along the order of Stalin and Russians do not want to live in Russia, which is the largest country in the world. Putin is a creep. Would you like to live in Russia? Of course, you might be able to afford lard on your bread for Sunday lunch in the Russian Motherland. Even Snowden would rather be in the federal penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana, for the rest of his life than in Russia for another hour.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dn-ZhWBWfs
     
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    Really, CMG. You know full well that I'm not talking about Russians. And so does everyone else reading this. You aren't fooling anyone.

    It would look better for you to just answer the question instead of resorting to dishonesty to keep trying to get out of answering it. You sound like a democrat talking all around a simple question and pretending you don't understand it instead of just answering it.

    Just answer the question.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine? Yes or no?
     
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    No, Russians do not own the Ukraine. Russians are deeply hated in the Ukraine for their genocide there. Russia is a big place and Russians should live there. Would you like to live in Russia, Poncho? Snowden would rather live in a US Federal Prison, although he might miss the big Russian Sunday lunches of lard on bread.

    The Russian Putin is a psychopath, a deviant, a degenerate, a congenital liar, a tinhorn dictator, a back-stabber, a criminal, a misogynist, an enemy of humanity and he should be charged with crimes against humanity and executed.
     
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    I'm not asking you what other people think. I'm not asking you how you feel about Putin and Russians. You've already told me how you feel 10 times over. I get it.

    I'd just like you to answer one simple question.

    Do ethnic Russian Ukrainians have a "right" to be in Ukraine? Yes or no?
     
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    Ukraine does not belong to Russia and suffered a genocide at the hands of Russia. Ukraine has their own language, their own Eastern Orthodox Church, and their own culture. Ukraine is a separate country from Russia.

    Russians have never apologized for the holocaust that they caused in the Ukraine.

    Putin is a psychopathic murderer along the order of Stalin and Russians do not want to live in Russia, which is the largest country in the world. Putin is a creep.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dn-ZhWBWfs
     
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