Sorry, you didn't seem to.
It also reveres him as a holy man, just not the Holy Man. I don't understand why you get so upset that other religions exist.
You know I have not defended the anti-christ. I don't even know what you mean by that term - it is not the classical definition, is it?
There, that you got right. He is risen and people have the right to believe and disbelieve what they will.
No one is asking you to. :confused:
electronic surveillance
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Aug 21, 2006.
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Daisy
If you want to continue your topic move it over to the thread I made for you.
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I know some people genuinely fear that this would allow bugging our homes, but I don't think so. But, if you think that we could discuss that.
But, honestly . . . if we do not bug the terrorists - how would you catch them? -
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You know I might be crazy, but I know you know I ain't stupid - you get the FISA warrant so when a democratic congressman's aide accidently sells out the person with the warrant -they are shooting at you and not me.
I got your back though.
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That is why I am for bugging the terrorists . . .
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Next time answer the whole question instead of the half question that sounds good.
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I am in favor of warranted electronic surveillence of suspected terrorists - suspected to be terrorists, not having to be known as such. -
Presently, we have warranted surveillance.
The actions of a politically IMHO motivated judge brings to light the greater problem, the USA is truly at the mercy of a judicial system that regularly gives Constitutional protection to foreign born terrorists under the guise of protecting 'nationalized' and American born terrorists.
My OP brought up the fact that we are regularly being monitored by foreign national companies - and there is no outcry. You said, disconnect it.
If you want to ruin your car. disconnect it.
But, if you are not worried about the Japanese, Koreans, Germans, French, & the Chinese monitoring you - why do you care if the USA monitors the terrorists? -
The problem is that we also have unwarranted surveillance of US citizens' phone calls by the US government.
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Talk about fanatacism.
I would rather have the US government bug every fantatic just in case one fanatic thinks about sympathizing with the enemy then to have foreign nationals bug my car.
And if you think that is a violation of your freedom then why don't you give the rest of us the same freedom that you demand?
I personally am for revoking the citizenships of those that do not belong here and sending them home - even if it was their grandparents that brought them here. -
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You have not proven that disconnecting the bugs is safe . . . and I should not have to worry about being bugged.
If I as an honest, law abiding, patriotic American can be bugged by the foreigners - then all (every single last one) conversation on the phone in this country should be bugged by the USA.
Hey! Maybe that is why they are letting the foreigners bug us - so that we will cave in on letting the government bug the terrorists! It is reverse psychology . . . -
What information do you think the black boxes in the automobiles are reporting?
A "bug" implies a secret listening device. It is not the case that the devices in the cars in the OP are secret or listening in the common sense of the word (ie. sound).
If you don't want a monitoring device in your car, buy one without it. That's pretty simple. Isn't it more patriotic to buy American anyway?
What freedom is it you think I am demanding for myself only?
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The Constitution was not written about any listening devices - the Framers had none.
Yet, the Framers did write the Constitution for Americans. They wrote against foreign powers.
So, why should I disavow the Constitution by allowing electronic surveillance by foreign powers? . . . and why should I disavow the Constitution by extending the protection of the Constitution to the enemy . . .
I just do not understand why you would sympathize against an American and for a foreigner . . . -
If you agree to the monitoring by knowingly buying the product (it is your responsibility to read the fine print and theirs to provide it), then you've waived your right not to be surveilled - the Constitution generally allows commerce between citizens and foreigners.
If you don't want the black box, don't buy one.
Seriously, what information about do you think the devices are transmitting? -
Theoretical? What part of reality do you not participate in?
I am appalled that any one daring to call themselves American would tell me to read the fine print so that I am not surveilled by foreign powers.
The Constitution is the fine print. -
Whine and cry about protecting terrorists . . . that is unbelievable.
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For the fifth time, what information do you think the car's black boxes are transmitting? -
How do we know there are not tracking devices as well in these black boxes?
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here is one of your friendly non-terrorists that youwant protected . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/25/dynamite.plane/index.html -
For the sixth time, what information do you think the car's black boxes are transmitting?
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