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Maybe it is a good idea to denounce white supremacy and neo-nazi rallies even IF THERE IS NO VIOLENCE and 10 people attend.
What a concept.
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And therein lies the problem. Germany, December 1932 all over again...
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Bingo! Yes, this is the problem. Obama couldn't name the enemy. Why can't Trump? Why did he dance around it for two days?
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Yep. We've got Nazis fighting communists in the streets.
If you prefer the 50's we've got serious talk of war on the Korean penisula.
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Then will you call out the Nazis as evil.
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Yep, the counter protesters were at fault. Law Enforcement did a shameful job of ignoring the violence offered by the counters. Had police acted swiftly and arrested the violent counter protestors, the event would have remained peaceful.
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Correct. But initially, before being ordered to stand down by the Leftist Mayor, the police had arrested 22 counter protesters for attacking the White Nationalists. At that time no, none, zip, nada, zero, White Nationalists had been arrested. They are vile and disgusting, but they did not start the violence.
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No its not. He did what was completely appropriate from the start. The complaints are disingenuous. They just want to something to blame Trump on, however if he waited until today it would have been appropriate. The time frame is not important.
In his original statement he said racism and bigotry. Time to drop the mic.
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Indeed. Scary times on both counts. "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
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No its not. He did what was completely appropriate from the start. The complaints are disingenuous. They just want to something to blame Trump on, however if he waited until today it would have been appropriate. The time frame is not important.
In his original statement he said racism and bigotry. Time to drop the mic.
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He wouldn't name names until yesterday. Why?
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it doesn't matter he said racism and bigotry.
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Don't be a moron! Nazis are evil. There is nobody on this forum that believes otherwise. White Supremisists are evil. What Nationalists are evil. Antifa are evil. BLM are evil. And in this case much of the fault can be laid at the feet of the Mayor for telling the police, who had been keeping the two sides apart, to stand down and the police chief for obeying an unlawful order. And the City Council will have to take its share of the blame for ordering the desecration of a United States Army veteran.
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It matters a lot. His initial statement was weaselly and didn't condemn Naziism. He had his chance then. Even his own party reps censured him for that.
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yesterday he did not name enough names like BLM or antifa who are equally culpable and equally racist.
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What part of "all the violence" didn't you understand?
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Don't be a moron! Nazis are evil. There is nobody on this forum that believes otherwise. White Supremisists are evil. What Nationalists are evil. Antifa are evil. BLM are evil. And in this case much of the fault can be laid at the feet of the Mayor for telling the police, who had been keeping the two sides apart, to stand down and the police chief for obeying an unlawful order. And the City Council will have to take its share of the blame for ordering the desecration of a United States Army veteran.
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There you go again, giving dangerous moral equivalence to the group to whom you refer.
Germany December 1932
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No it wasn't weasley thats absurd. Accusations born out of hate.
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Statements like that giving moral equivalence are a massive, massive part of the problem. True Christians need to stand up against the demonic evil of Naziism. We will see who the true Church is in the coming weeks...
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The Nazi bit.
You are sleepwalking into a far-right dictatorship
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We need to stand up equally against all racism not just naziism. The nazi's did not start the violence by the way the commies did.