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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Brightfame52, Feb 1, 2024.

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  1. Brightfame52

    Brightfame52 Well-Known Member

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    Salvation in Christ is solely for Gods Elect to obtain 2 Tim 2:10

    10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
     
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    The more you post the more you prove that you know nothing of the biblical will of God. You are being willfully blind so logically would you not fit into that group that God sent a delusion to so that they would not believe the truth so as to be saved.
     
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    What is mutually believed, but not mutually understand.

    Ephesians 1:3-14, Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
     
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    So the all God desires to be saved in 1 Tim 2:4 is none other than the elect of 2 Tim 2:10 and they all will be saved, the rest shall be blinded/hardened.
     
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    1 Timothy 2:4, . . . Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. . . .

    2 Timothy 2:10, . . . Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. . . .

    2 Timothy 2:19, . . . Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. . . ."
     
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    The ones the sovereign God of the bible desires to be saved is the whole world but since He has given man a LFW the only ones that will be saved are those that freely trust in the risen Son these are then called the elect because they are in the elect one Christ Jesus. These are the elect that Paul speaks of.

    Now what your little god does really does not matter as your god is not sovereign is he. According to you your god does all kinds of things that we do not find in the biblical text.

    Or perhaps your real problem is that you do not comprehend what the text says "all men" means all men not "elect". You seem to have a real problem understanding the text as you change, add or sometimes miss words and this leads you your errant views.
     
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    Salvation in Christ Jesus with Eternal Glory is for the Elect, not all mankind
     
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    What LFW?

    I suppose it references free will, but I don’t get the L.

    Thank you.
     
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